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Re: Typical Mac users

From John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc, comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject Re: Typical Mac users
Date 2026-04-23 09:49 -0700
Organization A place where nothing fits quite right
Message-ID <20260423094915.000001c7@gmail.com> (permalink)
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On Thu, 23 Apr 2026 08:11:18 -0700
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

> Well as the technical support contractor who maintained their Mac 
> network (AppleTalk on thinnet Ethernet: remember that; terminators!),
> I was disassembling everything when I came upon the machine in the
> bottom of a closet I knew was there from the existence of zones on
> the AppleTalk network, but had never seen.
> 
> In a closet, where it had been running continuously for something
> like 10 years, there was a Mac II ci.

The Forgotten Machine In The Broom Closet is always a fun one. Had a
client once with the most utterly ad-hoc network I've ever encountered
(we're talking "second building hanging off a single CAT5 strung across
the eaves" bad,) and for the longest damn time we *could not* find the
domain controller for their Windows machines. They had two different
Server 2008 R2 instances running out of a fairly beefy *nix VM host,
but neither were It, and when we connected into it via RDP it turned
out to be running Server 2003 instead, which wasn't on any of the PCs
we'd gotten our mgmt. tools set up on during the initial onboarding.

Well, it was running reliably enough (and it was even odds whether any
given workstation was even domain-joined in the first place,) and as
you might infer we had a whole smelt-fry of bigger fish at that place,
so we left it to itself for the time being. But one day during some on-
site work I chanced across a machine that was just sitting perched atop
a switch in their equipment rack, humming quietly away. Hooked up a
spare monitor & keyboard, and there was our domain controller, running
on...a Dell Pentium III consumer desktop.

It was still there when I left that job six months later. For all I
know, it still is.

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Typical Mac users ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-04-08 18:05 +0000
  Re: Typical Mac users John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-04-08 20:09 +0200
    Re: Typical Mac users Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-08 19:19 +0100
      Re: Typical Mac users John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-04-08 21:25 +0200
        Re: Typical Mac users Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-08 21:54 +0000
          Re: Typical Mac users John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-04-08 15:20 -0700
            Re: Typical Mac users rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-09 03:43 +0000
            Re: Typical Mac users The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-09 11:53 +0100
              Re: Typical Mac users "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-09 13:09 +0200
                Re: Typical Mac users The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-09 12:23 +0100
              Re: Typical Mac users John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-04-09 14:15 +0200
                Re: Typical Mac users John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-04-09 07:59 -0700
                Re: Typical Mac users John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-04-09 17:24 +0200
                Re: Typical Mac users -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2026-04-09 13:25 -0400
                Re: Typical Mac users John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-04-09 20:09 +0200
              Re: Typical Mac users Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2026-04-10 14:22 +0300
                Re: Typical Mac users The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-10 16:21 +0100
                Re: Typical Mac users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-11 21:54 +0000
                Re: Typical Mac users Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-04-12 09:25 +0200
                Re: Typical Mac users -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2026-04-12 10:08 -0400
          Re: Typical Mac users John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-04-09 12:07 +0200
            Re: Typical Mac users rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-09 19:14 +0000
              Re: Typical Mac users John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-04-09 21:28 +0200
              Re: Typical Mac users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-09 12:53 -0700
              Re: Typical Mac users John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-04-10 13:35 +0200
                Re: Typical Mac users rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-10 18:16 +0000
                Re: Typical Mac users John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-04-10 20:31 +0200
        Re: Typical Mac users Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-09 10:21 +0100
      Re: Typical Mac users Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-08 21:51 +0000
        Re: Typical Mac users "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-09 11:52 +0200
          Re: Typical Mac users -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2026-04-09 13:37 -0400
            Re: Typical Mac users rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-09 19:20 +0000
            Re: Typical Mac users "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-09 22:06 +0200
              Re: Typical Mac users rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-10 03:34 +0000
            Re: Typical Mac users Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2026-04-14 07:04 -0400
          Re: Typical Mac users rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-09 19:17 +0000
            Re: Typical Mac users "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-09 22:07 +0200
    Re: Typical Mac users The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-08 20:39 +0100
      Re: Typical Mac users John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-04-08 22:14 +0200
    Re: Typical Mac users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-11 00:22 +0000
      Re: Typical Mac users Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-11 09:52 +0100
  Re: Typical Mac users The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-08 20:37 +0100
    Re: Typical Mac users John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-04-08 22:48 +0200
      Re: Typical Mac users rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-09 03:57 +0000
    Re: Typical Mac users Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2026-04-08 17:26 -0400
      Re: Typical Mac users The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-09 11:51 +0100
        Re: Typical Mac users Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2026-04-09 12:34 -0400
    Re: Typical Mac users rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-09 03:51 +0000
      Re: Typical Mac users The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-09 11:54 +0100
  Re: Typical Mac users Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> - 2026-04-21 16:05 -0700
    Re: Typical Mac users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-21 19:10 -0400
      Re: Typical Mac users The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-22 10:04 +0100
        Re: Typical Mac users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-22 12:46 -0400
          Re: Typical Mac users The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-22 20:46 +0100
    Re: Typical Mac users The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-22 10:01 +0100
      Re: Typical Mac users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-22 12:45 -0400
        Re: Typical Mac users Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-04-22 13:49 -0400
          Re: Typical Mac users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-22 14:24 -0400
            Re: Typical Mac users "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-22 21:16 +0200
              Re: Typical Mac users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-22 15:21 -0400
                Re: Typical Mac users The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-22 20:49 +0100
                [OT] reductio ad redscarium (was: Re: Typical Mac users) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-26 07:17 +0100
                Re: [OT] reductio ad redscarium The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-26 11:51 +0100
                Re: [OT] reductio ad redscarium CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-26 07:43 -0400
                Re: [OT] reductio ad redscarium CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-26 07:32 -0400
                Re: [OT] reductio ad redscarium "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-26 13:57 +0200
                Re: [OT] reductio ad redscarium Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-04-26 10:25 -0700
                Re: [OT] reductio ad redscarium Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-26 18:35 +0100
                Re: [OT] reductio ad redscarium rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-26 17:51 +0000
                Re: [OT] reductio ad redscarium Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-26 18:59 +0100
                Re: [OT] reductio ad redscarium rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-26 22:39 +0000
                Re: [OT] reductio ad redscarium CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-26 18:52 -0400
                Re: [OT] reductio ad redscarium The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-27 11:15 +0100
            Re: Typical Mac users The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-22 20:49 +0100
              Re: Typical Mac users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-22 19:09 -0400
                Re: Typical Mac users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-22 18:31 -0700
                Re: Typical Mac users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-22 22:02 -0400
                Re: Typical Mac users John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-04-23 15:02 +0200
                Re: Typical Mac users The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-23 09:52 +0100
                Re: Typical Mac users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-23 09:23 -0400
                Re: Typical Mac users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-23 08:01 -0700
                Re: Typical Mac users -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2026-04-23 05:36 -0400
                Re: Typical Mac users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-23 08:11 -0700
                Re: Typical Mac users John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-04-23 09:49 -0700
                Re: Typical Mac users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-23 16:31 -0400
                Re: Typical Mac users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-23 14:19 -0700
                Re: Typical Mac users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-23 19:59 -0400
                Re: Typical Mac users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-23 19:32 -0700
                Re: Typical Mac users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-24 08:33 -0400
                Re: Typical Mac users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-24 09:30 -0700
                Re: Typical Mac users John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-04-24 08:48 -0700
              Re: Typical Mac users Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-23 08:26 +0100
                Re: Typical Mac users "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-23 12:35 +0200
                Re: Typical Mac users The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-23 15:16 +0100
                Re: Typical Mac users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-23 09:11 -0400
                Re: Typical Mac users Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-23 17:35 +0100
                Re: Typical Mac users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-23 16:42 -0400
                Re: Typical Mac users Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-24 09:14 +0100
                Re: Typical Mac users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-24 08:41 -0400
                Re: Typical Mac users The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-24 13:45 +0100
                Re: Typical Mac users John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-04-24 16:06 +0200
                Re: Typical Mac users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-24 10:57 -0400
                FUD, again? (was: Re: Typical Mac users) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-25 10:53 +0100
                Re: FUD, again? CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-25 07:45 -0400
                [OT] Re: Typical Mac users Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-25 10:44 +0100
                Re: [OT] Re: Typical Mac users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-25 07:29 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: Typical Mac users Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-26 07:23 +0100
                Re: [OT] Re: Typical Mac users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-26 07:36 -0400
                Re: Typical Mac users rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-23 18:47 +0000
                Re: Typical Mac users Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-25 10:57 +0100
                Re: Typical Mac users rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-25 18:52 +0000
            Re: Typical Mac users Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-04-23 08:53 -0400
          Re: Typical Mac users Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-04-22 13:47 -0700
        Re: Typical Mac users The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-22 20:43 +0100
          Re: Typical Mac users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-22 19:07 -0400
        Re: Typical Mac users John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-04-22 21:51 +0200
          Re: Typical Mac users John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-04-23 15:05 +0200
    Re: Typical Mac users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-22 15:33 -0700
      Re: Typical Mac users The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-23 09:51 +0100
        Re: Typical Mac users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-23 08:21 -0700
          Re: Typical Mac users The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-23 17:04 +0100
            Re: Typical Mac users John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-04-23 19:06 +0200
            Re: Typical Mac users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-23 16:40 -0400
              Re: Typical Mac users John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-04-23 23:44 +0200
                Re: Typical Mac users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-23 20:02 -0400
            Re: Typical Mac users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-23 14:20 -0700
          Re: Typical Mac users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-23 16:39 -0400
            Re: Typical Mac users The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-24 09:34 +0100
    Re: Typical Mac users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-22 23:21 +0000
      Re: Typical Mac users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-22 18:30 -0700
        Re: Typical Mac users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-22 21:59 -0400
          Re: Typical Mac users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-22 19:03 -0700
            Re: Typical Mac users The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-23 09:56 +0100
              Re: Typical Mac users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-23 08:20 -0700
                Re: Typical Mac users The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-23 17:03 +0100
                Re: Typical Mac users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-23 14:21 -0700
                Re: Typical Mac users The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-24 09:46 +0100
                Re: Typical Mac users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-24 09:34 -0700
                Re: Typical Mac users The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-25 11:14 +0100
                Re: Typical Mac users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-25 19:40 -0700
            Re: Typical Mac users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-23 09:03 -0400

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