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Re: Typical Mac users

From Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc, comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject Re: Typical Mac users
Date 2026-04-23 08:11 -0700
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On 2026-04-23 02:36, -hh wrote:
> On 4/22/26 19:09, CrudeSausage wrote:
>> On 2026-04-22 3:49 p.m., The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 22/04/2026 19:24, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>> On 2026-04-22 1:49 p.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>> CrudeSausage wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS:
>>>>>
>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> People who buy Macs intend to perform tasks with their computer. They
>>>>>> don't buy one hoping to constantly massage and compliment the 
>>>>>> thing in
>>>>>> the hope that it won't off itself like Linux and Windows computers 
>>>>>> do.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think most people who buy computers buy them to perform tasks,
>>>>> even if, for some, that task is "just" gaming.
>>>>>
>>>>> I certainly do a lot of tasks in Linux.
>>>>
>>>> All of those tasks are repairing the operating system to keep it 
>>>> working.
>>>>
>>> ¿ That makes no sense at all.?
>>> Even were it true, that would be better than a Mac where you have to 
>>> reinstall  the whole operating system to repairr it periodically...
>>
>> I would bet that absolutely none of the Mac users in 
>> comp.sys.mac.advocacy have had to do that in the entire time they've 
>> used their Apple hardware. They might reinstall before selling it to 
>> someone, but there is otherwise no need to do so.
> 
> I'm starting to think about doing that.
> 
> Its on a 2012 Mac Pro that's never had it done since new, and its still 
> running for some noncritical tasks (for day-to-day, it was effectively 
> replaced in 2022).  It has developed a glitch where it won't shut down 
> automatically; I suspect that its probably due to some sort of SSD 
> hardware failure/corruption on an 7-8 year old SSD.  Since my only need 
> for it to shut down is from power failures, its a very low priority.
> 
> Other than this "maybe", I don't recall wiping the PMG5 Mac prior to 
> that, so my anecdotal incidence rate is lower than "0 for 20 years"
> 
> 
> -hh

I remember when a (former) client was moving the printing and video 
product departments (the only ones using Macs and hence the reason they 
needed an outside contractor for support) from an outbuilding to the 
head office building.

This was back in...2002, maybe?

Well as the technical support contractor who maintained their Mac 
network (AppleTalk on thinnet Ethernet: remember that; terminators!), I 
was disassembling everything when I came upon the machine in the bottom 
of a closet I knew was there from the existence of zones on the 
AppleTalk network, but had never seen.

In a closet, where it had been running continuously for something like 
10 years, there was a Mac II ci.

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Typical Mac users ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-04-08 18:05 +0000
  Re: Typical Mac users John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-04-08 20:09 +0200
    Re: Typical Mac users Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-08 19:19 +0100
      Re: Typical Mac users John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-04-08 21:25 +0200
        Re: Typical Mac users Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-08 21:54 +0000
          Re: Typical Mac users John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-04-08 15:20 -0700
            Re: Typical Mac users rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-09 03:43 +0000
            Re: Typical Mac users The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-09 11:53 +0100
              Re: Typical Mac users "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-09 13:09 +0200
                Re: Typical Mac users The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-09 12:23 +0100
              Re: Typical Mac users John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-04-09 14:15 +0200
                Re: Typical Mac users John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-04-09 07:59 -0700
                Re: Typical Mac users John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-04-09 17:24 +0200
                Re: Typical Mac users -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2026-04-09 13:25 -0400
                Re: Typical Mac users John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-04-09 20:09 +0200
              Re: Typical Mac users Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2026-04-10 14:22 +0300
                Re: Typical Mac users The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-10 16:21 +0100
                Re: Typical Mac users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-11 21:54 +0000
                Re: Typical Mac users Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-04-12 09:25 +0200
                Re: Typical Mac users -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2026-04-12 10:08 -0400
          Re: Typical Mac users John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-04-09 12:07 +0200
            Re: Typical Mac users rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-09 19:14 +0000
              Re: Typical Mac users John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-04-09 21:28 +0200
              Re: Typical Mac users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-09 12:53 -0700
              Re: Typical Mac users John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-04-10 13:35 +0200
                Re: Typical Mac users rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-10 18:16 +0000
                Re: Typical Mac users John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-04-10 20:31 +0200
        Re: Typical Mac users Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-09 10:21 +0100
      Re: Typical Mac users Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-08 21:51 +0000
        Re: Typical Mac users "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-09 11:52 +0200
          Re: Typical Mac users -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2026-04-09 13:37 -0400
            Re: Typical Mac users rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-09 19:20 +0000
            Re: Typical Mac users "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-09 22:06 +0200
              Re: Typical Mac users rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-10 03:34 +0000
            Re: Typical Mac users Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2026-04-14 07:04 -0400
          Re: Typical Mac users rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-09 19:17 +0000
            Re: Typical Mac users "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-09 22:07 +0200
    Re: Typical Mac users The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-08 20:39 +0100
      Re: Typical Mac users John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-04-08 22:14 +0200
    Re: Typical Mac users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-11 00:22 +0000
      Re: Typical Mac users Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-11 09:52 +0100
  Re: Typical Mac users The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-08 20:37 +0100
    Re: Typical Mac users John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-04-08 22:48 +0200
      Re: Typical Mac users rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-09 03:57 +0000
    Re: Typical Mac users Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2026-04-08 17:26 -0400
      Re: Typical Mac users The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-09 11:51 +0100
        Re: Typical Mac users Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2026-04-09 12:34 -0400
    Re: Typical Mac users rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-09 03:51 +0000
      Re: Typical Mac users The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-09 11:54 +0100
  Re: Typical Mac users Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> - 2026-04-21 16:05 -0700
    Re: Typical Mac users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-21 19:10 -0400
      Re: Typical Mac users The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-22 10:04 +0100
        Re: Typical Mac users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-22 12:46 -0400
          Re: Typical Mac users The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-22 20:46 +0100
    Re: Typical Mac users The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-22 10:01 +0100
      Re: Typical Mac users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-22 12:45 -0400
        Re: Typical Mac users Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-04-22 13:49 -0400
          Re: Typical Mac users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-22 14:24 -0400
            Re: Typical Mac users "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-22 21:16 +0200
              Re: Typical Mac users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-22 15:21 -0400
                Re: Typical Mac users The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-22 20:49 +0100
                [OT] reductio ad redscarium (was: Re: Typical Mac users) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-26 07:17 +0100
                Re: [OT] reductio ad redscarium The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-26 11:51 +0100
                Re: [OT] reductio ad redscarium CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-26 07:43 -0400
                Re: [OT] reductio ad redscarium CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-26 07:32 -0400
                Re: [OT] reductio ad redscarium "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-26 13:57 +0200
                Re: [OT] reductio ad redscarium Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-04-26 10:25 -0700
                Re: [OT] reductio ad redscarium Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-26 18:35 +0100
                Re: [OT] reductio ad redscarium rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-26 17:51 +0000
                Re: [OT] reductio ad redscarium Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-26 18:59 +0100
                Re: [OT] reductio ad redscarium rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-26 22:39 +0000
                Re: [OT] reductio ad redscarium CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-26 18:52 -0400
                Re: [OT] reductio ad redscarium The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-27 11:15 +0100
            Re: Typical Mac users The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-22 20:49 +0100
              Re: Typical Mac users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-22 19:09 -0400
                Re: Typical Mac users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-22 18:31 -0700
                Re: Typical Mac users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-22 22:02 -0400
                Re: Typical Mac users John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-04-23 15:02 +0200
                Re: Typical Mac users The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-23 09:52 +0100
                Re: Typical Mac users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-23 09:23 -0400
                Re: Typical Mac users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-23 08:01 -0700
                Re: Typical Mac users -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2026-04-23 05:36 -0400
                Re: Typical Mac users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-23 08:11 -0700
                Re: Typical Mac users John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-04-23 09:49 -0700
                Re: Typical Mac users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-23 16:31 -0400
                Re: Typical Mac users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-23 14:19 -0700
                Re: Typical Mac users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-23 19:59 -0400
                Re: Typical Mac users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-23 19:32 -0700
                Re: Typical Mac users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-24 08:33 -0400
                Re: Typical Mac users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-24 09:30 -0700
                Re: Typical Mac users John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-04-24 08:48 -0700
              Re: Typical Mac users Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-23 08:26 +0100
                Re: Typical Mac users "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-23 12:35 +0200
                Re: Typical Mac users The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-23 15:16 +0100
                Re: Typical Mac users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-23 09:11 -0400
                Re: Typical Mac users Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-23 17:35 +0100
                Re: Typical Mac users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-23 16:42 -0400
                Re: Typical Mac users Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-24 09:14 +0100
                Re: Typical Mac users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-24 08:41 -0400
                Re: Typical Mac users The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-24 13:45 +0100
                Re: Typical Mac users John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-04-24 16:06 +0200
                Re: Typical Mac users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-24 10:57 -0400
                FUD, again? (was: Re: Typical Mac users) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-25 10:53 +0100
                Re: FUD, again? CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-25 07:45 -0400
                [OT] Re: Typical Mac users Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-25 10:44 +0100
                Re: [OT] Re: Typical Mac users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-25 07:29 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: Typical Mac users Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-26 07:23 +0100
                Re: [OT] Re: Typical Mac users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-26 07:36 -0400
                Re: Typical Mac users rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-23 18:47 +0000
                Re: Typical Mac users Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-25 10:57 +0100
                Re: Typical Mac users rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-25 18:52 +0000
            Re: Typical Mac users Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-04-23 08:53 -0400
          Re: Typical Mac users Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-04-22 13:47 -0700
        Re: Typical Mac users The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-22 20:43 +0100
          Re: Typical Mac users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-22 19:07 -0400
        Re: Typical Mac users John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-04-22 21:51 +0200
          Re: Typical Mac users John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-04-23 15:05 +0200
    Re: Typical Mac users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-22 15:33 -0700
      Re: Typical Mac users The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-23 09:51 +0100
        Re: Typical Mac users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-23 08:21 -0700
          Re: Typical Mac users The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-23 17:04 +0100
            Re: Typical Mac users John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-04-23 19:06 +0200
            Re: Typical Mac users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-23 16:40 -0400
              Re: Typical Mac users John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-04-23 23:44 +0200
                Re: Typical Mac users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-23 20:02 -0400
            Re: Typical Mac users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-23 14:20 -0700
          Re: Typical Mac users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-23 16:39 -0400
            Re: Typical Mac users The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-24 09:34 +0100
    Re: Typical Mac users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-22 23:21 +0000
      Re: Typical Mac users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-22 18:30 -0700
        Re: Typical Mac users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-22 21:59 -0400
          Re: Typical Mac users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-22 19:03 -0700
            Re: Typical Mac users The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-23 09:56 +0100
              Re: Typical Mac users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-23 08:20 -0700
                Re: Typical Mac users The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-23 17:03 +0100
                Re: Typical Mac users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-23 14:21 -0700
                Re: Typical Mac users The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-24 09:46 +0100
                Re: Typical Mac users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-24 09:34 -0700
                Re: Typical Mac users The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-25 11:14 +0100
                Re: Typical Mac users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-25 19:40 -0700
            Re: Typical Mac users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-23 09:03 -0400

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