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Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE

From	John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	alt.comp.os.windows-11, comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE
Date	2025-08-22 13:00 -0700
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
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On 22 Aug 2025 19:21:42 GMT
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

> That turned me off history until my later years. I love looking at
> the big picture and how it all comes together but elementary school
> teachers favored tests they could easily grade and dates were as
> black and white as it gets. They also had a very tight focus. What
> else was happening in the world in 1215? What was Frederick II up to?
> How about the Danes? 

History is one of those subjects that's immensely fascinating, but gets
taught in exactly the way that's most likely to turn students off ever
taking an interest in it - much like reading, where even if the method
for teaching *how* to read isn't faulty (which it all too often is,)
the actual *reading a book* part is treated as nothing more than the
preamble to the hell that is book reports and dull-ass were-you-paying-
the-barest-minimum-of-attention quizzes.

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