Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE

From	Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com>
Newsgroups	alt.comp.os.windows-11, comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE
Date	2025-08-24 22:16 -0700
Organization	dis
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On 8/24/25 21:30, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2025-08-25, Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> 
>> 	The economy has many theorists but few people like Piketty working
>> on the basis of observation. A real economy would be based on the energy
>> available without pollution and a better distribution of real resources
>> throughout the population. But I don't think that Economics is a science.
>> However observations of past national economies showed that accumulation
>> of massive fortunes by the fortunate or the enterprising has never been
>> good for the nations in which it happened.
> 
> In both science and economics there are people working hard to figure
> things out, and then there are charlatans.  (Whether this also applies
> to religion is another topic.)  I try to temper my judgement by
> remembering Hanlon's Razor: "Never ascribe to malice that which
> can adequately be explained by stupidity."  To which a little
> voice in my mind replies, "But Microsoft isn't stupid!"
> (Replace Microsoft with the oligarch of your choice.)
> 

	
	Microsoft is neither stupid or ignorant but some of the people in
charge now seem to be.  As for Oligarchs they all suffer from fear
of being subverted. Look at the foolish moves on the part of the
current American CIC.  The earliest clear account of this which I happen
to have read about is the founding of the Kamakura Shogunate in
Japan around the 11th or 12th Century. The leader of the Minamoto
(Genji) samurai family that took over was so consumed by fear of
displacement that he murdered all but his wife whose family took
over the Shogunate since he had left no heirs alive.
	That includes his half-brother, Yoshitsune who had been
instrumental in his takeover from the Taira (Heiki) family, his son
and his daughter. as well as closer male relatives in the Genji family.
I studied Japanese history to understand better the manga and
anime I was watching about 20 years ago.
	As I have mentioned before Microsoft should abandon Windows
totally and just fix WINE then go straight to their own distribution
of Linux or Unix or some other OS without the bad history.
	A kernel in Rust and a distro is being done.  Debian
is still having a HURD release but I haven't read the evaluations
of it yet.
	Windows was provided, despite being the long term target
of malware writers, with very little security in place. That was good
for anti-virus software sales but not for the users.

	bliss

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