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Re: C structure portability, naughty Python

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From Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
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Subject Re: C structure portability, naughty Python
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rbowman wrote this post by blinking in Morse code:

> On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 07:03:38 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> I once created an audio playback app with class hierarchies in C, rather
>> than C++. It was an interesting experiment, and it worked. But that's
>> the last time I tried that.
>
> A class is a glorified struct. I remember heated discussions at one of the 
> Boston Computer Society's meeting before 'C++' became a name about 'C with 
> Classes' and whether a new language was needed.

C++ is wayyyyy beyond C w/classes now. Example: templates,
promises, futures, and a greatly expanded Standard Library (e.g.
the <random> functions)..

> 'C with Classes' is now a derogatory term that describes the sort of C++ I 
> write. Charles Petzhold has written a number of books on programming for 
> Windows. He has an intense dislike for C++ so if you can track down some 
> of the first editions of 'Programming Windows' they are all C. The 6th 
> edition was C# which he said was what should have been all along.

Does Petzhold still have the Windows tattoo? :-D

I was on a project where I had to use C#. Not bad, but I got a
good laugh at things like the "using" kludge to mimic the
exception-safety of C++ and that classes are always passed by
reference even though the function call looks like passing a
value.

> The C approach was educational since it exposed some of the magic lke 
> vtables, and the magical 'this' is only another parameter passed in the 
> first location. 

Python's "self".

-- 
Violence stinks, no matter which end of it you're on.  But now and then
there's nothing left to do but hit the other person over the head with a
frying pan.  Sometimes people are just begging for that frypan, and if we
weaken for a moment and honor their request, we should regard it as
impulsive philanthropy, which we aren't in any position to afford, but
shouldn't regret it too loudly lest we spoil the purity of the deed.
		-- Tom Robbins

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                Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 04:57 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Ian <${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> - 2026-01-08 09:57 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-07 08:57 -0800
                Re: naughty Pascal Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-01-07 09:41 -0800
                Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-07 10:29 -0800
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 22:33 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 04:57 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 00:42 -0500
                Re: Naughty Advertising (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-08 07:01 +0000
                Re: Naughty Advertising (was Re: naughty Pascal) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-08 08:45 -0800
                Re: Naughty Advertising (was Re: naughty Pascal) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 18:23 +0000
                Re: Naughty Advertising (was Re: naughty Pascal) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 19:16 +0000
                Re: Naughty Advertising (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 20:11 -0500
                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 11:27 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 19:16 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 20:23 -0500
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 01:48 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-01-08 19:32 -0800
                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 23:36 -0500
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 06:44 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-08 18:46 -0800
                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 22:15 -0500
                Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-08 20:13 -0800
                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 23:40 -0500
                Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-08 22:23 -0800
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 07:04 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-09 07:58 -0800
                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-09 18:47 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 20:08 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-09 10:00 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-09 08:06 -0800
                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-09 18:51 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-09 10:54 -0800
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 20:36 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-09 13:24 -0800
                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-10 10:27 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-10 07:42 -0700
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-10 19:44 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-10 13:03 -0700
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-10 23:56 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 11:02 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-01-10 15:39 -0800
                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 11:05 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 21:49 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-11 21:19 -0500
                Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-12 07:45 -0700
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-12 18:35 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-12 20:52 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-12 20:58 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 06:03 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-13 12:45 -0500
                Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-12 14:26 -0800
                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-12 18:17 -0500
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 06:26 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-13 09:26 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 05:56 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-20 14:26 +0100
                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-20 13:29 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 11:01 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-10 18:23 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-01-10 15:50 -0800
                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-10 22:48 -0500
                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 11:19 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 11:17 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 11:07 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-11 16:47 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 19:44 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2026-01-10 12:14 -0500
                Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-10 09:45 -0800
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 20:32 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-10 20:51 -0500
                Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-10 20:03 -0700
                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-10 22:31 -0500
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 05:39 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-11 01:17 -0500
                Re: naughty Pascal Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 11:00 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 11:47 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 11:29 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-11 17:44 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 19:46 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-11 20:23 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 20:30 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-11 21:17 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-11 18:05 -0500
                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-11 17:58 -0500
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-12 03:47 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-12 23:41 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-12 22:58 -0500
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 05:40 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-13 07:41 -0700
                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-13 12:38 -0500
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 18:00 +0000
                Naughty Cat Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-13 14:29 -0500
                Re: Naughty Cat rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-14 00:42 +0000
                Re: Naughty Cat Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-14 07:27 -0700
                Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-13 19:34 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-14 00:49 +0000
                Tinned tuna [Was: naughty Pascal] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-20 14:58 +0100
                Oil down the drain [Was: naughty Pascal] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-20 14:53 +0100
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 20:57 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-12 11:50 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-12 18:31 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-11 07:43 -0700
                Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-11 16:44 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 21:34 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-11 21:38 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-12 08:11 -0800
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-12 18:45 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-12 19:52 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 05:22 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-13 00:37 -0500
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 08:18 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-12 13:15 -0700
                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-12 18:10 -0500
                Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-12 00:47 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-12 04:10 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-12 15:44 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-12 18:52 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-12 20:46 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-12 18:12 -0500
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 05:50 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-13 12:41 -0500
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 18:17 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-13 22:41 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-14 01:01 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-16 21:40 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> - 2026-01-18 12:30 -0800
                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-18 21:08 -0500
                Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-19 16:22 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-13 09:23 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-12 08:25 -0800
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-12 18:22 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 11:26 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 21:35 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-12 11:57 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-12 23:41 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 06:32 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2026-01-13 04:35 -0600
                Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-20 15:38 +0100
                Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-09 09:36 -0800
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 06:58 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-01-09 09:19 -0800
                Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-07 06:33 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 09:55 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 21:46 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 04:57 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-07 18:48 -0500
                Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-07 06:33 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-07 07:31 -0700
                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-05 23:18 -0500
                Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-06 07:42 -0700
                Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 20:01 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-07 07:27 -0700
                Re: naughty Pascal antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-06 22:32 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-06 20:53 -0500
                Re: naughty Pascal cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-07 11:51 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-06 08:20 -0800
                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 10:15 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-06 06:33 -0500
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 19:20 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-06 09:14 -0800
                Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-05 12:33 -0700
                Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-05 11:50 -0800
                Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-05 13:37 -0800
                Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-06 13:19 +0100
                Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-06 08:30 -0800
                Re: naughty Pascal cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-06 17:04 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-06 16:30 -0500
                Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-07 13:40 +0100
                Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-07 07:47 -0700
                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 20:08 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 20:18 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 04:57 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 00:36 -0500
                Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-08 07:00 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-08 08:33 -0800
                Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-08 20:00 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-08 20:21 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 22:45 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-08 23:52 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-09 16:03 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-08 07:51 -0700
                Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-07 13:38 +0100
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 22:03 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-07 19:21 -0700
                Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-08 02:26 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-07 23:20 -0500
                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 11:20 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-08 08:34 -0800
                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 20:19 -0500
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 01:42 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-09 09:57 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-08 14:43 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 20:15 -0500
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 01:44 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-09 09:56 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-08 19:28 -0700
                Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-08 07:47 -0700
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-08 19:52 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 22:45 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 01:35 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-09 10:02 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-09 08:16 -0700
                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-09 18:46 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 20:40 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 20:38 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-09 20:56 -0700
                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-10 10:58 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-10 03:12 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-10 19:39 +0000
                Re: naughty useless code (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-10 20:52 +0000
                Re: naughty useless code (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 00:02 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-09 16:04 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 20:54 -0500
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 06:36 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-09 08:13 -0700
                Re: Naughty PL/I (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-09 18:38 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-01-10 14:40 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-10 20:50 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-11 02:00 -0500
                Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-11 16:55 +0000
                Re: Naughty Fortran (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-11 20:24 +0000
                Re: Naughty Fortran (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-11 18:00 -0500
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 21:31 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-08 19:49 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 20:43 -0500
                Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-10 19:39 +0000
                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-10 20:47 +0000
                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 00:27 +0000
                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-10 18:41 -0800
                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-10 20:06 -0700
                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-10 22:44 -0500
                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-11 07:40 -0700
                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-11 03:50 +0000
                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2026-01-11 05:55 -0600
                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-01-11 14:18 +0000
                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2026-01-11 17:00 +0100
                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 20:44 +0000
                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-12 11:49 +0000
                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-12 07:52 -0700
                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-12 17:03 +0000
                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-12 19:57 +0000
                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-12 20:05 +0000
                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-12 20:16 +0000
                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 05:01 +0000
                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-13 06:31 +0000
                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 08:09 +0000
                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-13 14:21 +0000
                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 17:54 +0000
                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 04:46 +0000
                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 04:31 +0000
                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-12 19:56 +0000
                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-13 00:24 +0000
                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-13 00:36 +0000
                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-12 23:04 -0500
                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-11 01:52 -0500
                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-10 23:34 -0800
                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-11 02:50 -0500
                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-01-11 14:55 +0000
                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-12 02:42 +0000
                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-12 07:50 -0700
                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-12 09:14 -0800
                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-12 13:12 -0700
                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2026-01-12 14:48 -0600
                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-11 07:48 -0700
                Re: naughty Pascal antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-11 01:32 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 11:21 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 19:22 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-07 13:41 +0100
                Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-05 21:42 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-05 20:33 -0700
                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-05 22:58 -0500
                Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-05 20:27 -0700
                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-05 22:54 -0500
                Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-06 07:40 -0700
                Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 04:09 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 10:10 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-06 07:46 -0700
                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 17:19 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-06 12:39 -0700
                Re: naughty Pascal cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-06 19:56 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-07 06:33 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 09:44 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 19:57 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-06 21:53 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 19:17 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-06 16:06 -0500
                Re: naughty Pascal cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-06 23:44 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 09:57 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 09:56 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 22:08 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 11:21 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 04:57 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 00:41 -0500
                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 11:26 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-08 19:59 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 22:45 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 21:00 -0500
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-08 20:00 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-08 20:09 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 02:02 +0000

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