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On 05/06/2014 09:00 AM, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
> crankypuss <crankypuss@nomail.invalid> writes:
>
>> On 05/05/2014 05:12 PM, David Brown wrote:
>>> On 03/05/14 00:03, Bill Cunningham wrote:
>>>> "David Brown" <david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote in message
>>>> news:ljt4sv$5qq$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>
>>>>> That package is for people writing low-level routines for repairing or
>>>>> checking ext file systems.  You are not doing anything like that, so the
>>>>> package is useless to you.  Don't bother looking at it.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you can say what you are trying to do, people can give you more help.
>>>>
>>>>       Considering studying for an /interest/ in utilies for checking or
>>>> changing things like inodes and so on. As a learning experience in
>>>> dealing
>>>> with filesystems.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You won't learn anything - if you ever get anything running that
>>> actually does anything to your inodes (assuming you know what they are),
>>> you will screw up your filesystem.
>>>
>>> This sort of stuff is /advanced/ programming.  It makes sense for people
>>> who have worked for years at kernel and OS programming - not for people
>>> who have spent 20 years trying to learn C and still haven't figured out
>>> what a pointer is.
>>>
>>> I am a great fan of learning, and encouraging people to learn and take
>>> up hobbies.  But there comes a point when you have to face reality and
>>> accept that you are not cut out for C programming.  Find yourself a
>>> hobby that matches your abilities, and you will be much happier.
>>
>> That seems like a pretty harsh indictment, David; we don't know the
>> guy, but you're assuming he's an idiot ("spent 20 years trying to
>> learn C" etc) and you seem to be pretty condescending about it.
>
> Bill's been around for a long, long time (I'm thinking I've seen him
> making references to having been working on learning C for ten years off
> and on, but twenty wouldn't surprise me) in this and other groups, and
> David's advice is, I'm sorry to say, very good.  He's been over in
> comp.lang.c for the past several weeks trying to get a grasp of
> pointers, asking the same questions about them that he was asking
> several years ago.

Apparently some are privy to different information than others; I don't 
read comp.lang.c because OMG how boring can you get, when it's time to 
step back into syntax-hell I'll pick up the K&R sitting in the closet 
gathering dust, but I'll forestall that misery until it becomes unavoidable.

> This is a guy who's going to be manipulating the
> filesystem?

Everybody manipulates filesystems constantly, we just mostly do it 
through abstraction layers like the one containing "cp" and "chmod".

> It's reached the point that several people over there have concluded he
> has indeed found another hobby:  he really does know C, and is
> deliberately trolling.  I'm not *quite* in that camp (yet), but it's
> clear that he's not going to be achieving a basic competence in C
> programming through his approach of asking questions in newsgroups.

Whatever, I'm not here to beat the guy up; the code exists, if he can 
read it and write it something will happen, and if it's mortally bad 
that's an effect he's caused.

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ext filesystem "Bill Cunningham" <nosapm@nspam.invalid> - 2014-04-30 19:04 -0400
  Re: ext filesystem Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2014-05-01 05:59 +0000
    Re: ext filesystem "Bill Cunningham" <nosapm@nspam.invalid> - 2014-05-02 18:01 -0400
  Re: ext filesystem David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2014-05-01 11:41 +0200
    Re: ext filesystem "Bill Cunningham" <nosapm@nspam.invalid> - 2014-05-02 18:03 -0400
      Re: ext filesystem David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2014-05-06 01:12 +0200
        Re: ext filesystem crankypuss <crankypuss@nomail.invalid> - 2014-05-06 04:02 -0600
          Re: ext filesystem Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2014-05-06 09:00 -0600
            Re: ext filesystem crankypuss <crankypuss@nomail.invalid> - 2014-05-07 00:42 -0600
          Re: ext filesystem David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2014-05-07 00:27 +0200
            Re: ext filesystem crankypuss <crankypuss@nomail.invalid> - 2014-05-07 00:58 -0600
          Re: ext filesystem "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2014-05-13 00:44 -0400

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