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Re: Set/get console cursor position without use ncurses

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Jan Panteltje wrote:

Warning, your reply risk to start a flame that I don't want to join in. 

If you are one of the "classic" Linux user that think Linux is the only
one OS star in the world and all other OS are shit is your problem but
the reality is not as you think. I'll reply you ONCE just for show my
think but I'll don't reply to any other post out of the current problem
discussion anymore.

So, let's start...

> MS DOS is a memory limited piece of shit, and long dead.

MS-DOS is dead for standard users but is quite still live for companies
making embedded hardware since can be booted easily from an USB key (I
know Linux too, just for prevent your reply), can run with a very
limited quantity of memory and allow to easily have access to memory
(high memory using extension like DOS32), IO port, PCI and so on. The
only "limitation" is it can work only in x86 system but is very useful
in a lot of occasions.

> MS windows is an ever repeating attempt to write new ever worse
> versions of an OS to extract money from its victims.  You should
> REALLY not support either of that anti human crap.  Microsoft is
> pretty much dead anyways, I guess even to the totally ignorant users
> selling feature limited crap over and over again must have been
> noticed.  So much for your 'no additional effort and libraries'
> statement.

"Ignorant users" as you call normal people are the same people who only
need to use a computer without face problem like kernel configuration,
recomiling libraries, fight with all the problem Linux give with driver
of each device you try to connect and so on. The list of very long. I
know very well people like you, sice I have some friend who think
exactly the same. Maybe you are a Linux expert and all these problems I
listed are "normal". You know how to fix them so no problem at all. But
normal people can PAY for have a stable system that don't give a lot of
troubles without all the problem below. I don't say Windows doesn't
have problems or is the perfect OS but compared from linux have a
characteristic and is fundamentals and in called STANDARDS. I can run
on Windows 7 a software developed from Windows 2000 whithout problems
in the majority of cases. Do you think the possibility to run in the
last Linux version a software compiled for a Linux distrubution older
more than 10 years are very high? I don't think so. Yes, you can
recompile but also in this case I don't think you could have success
without apply patches (supposign someone made them), updating libraries
and so on. In your mind you don't consider these as problem but in the
reality these ARE problems. In my work I develop software for both
Windows a Linux. I can appreciate some positive feature of Linux but I
prefer Windows for the reasons I explained above. I'm sure you don't
agree but I don't care.

> Be glad there IS ncurses, or learn to use the terminal control codes,

I should be glad because someone invented this strange and quite
complex ways for make the same operation I can have with few lines of
native code in other OS?

> or even better learn how to write a decent GUI or a command line
> program that does not need cursor jingling.

You are a little strung? Since you don't know nothing about the
application I need to develop you have no right to criticize my choices.
Just for your information I need to show some binary data in the screen
and refresh continuously the current value of them. The solution is
usually used in this case is to print the data, reposition the cursor
at the beginning and reprint again the new data for cover the old one.
I'm open to any suggestion, if you have a better idea, please, explain
me.

> Dropping support for MS crap will give you time to learn that, and
> optimize your Linux design.

As already said in the beginning of this post this will be my only
reply about this argument. You can throw your anger as you like but, as
already said, I don't care.

Bye


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  Re: Set/get console cursor position without use ncurses Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2012-11-19 12:42 +0200
    Re: Set/get console cursor position without use ncurses "Max" <noname@noreply.com> - 2012-11-19 16:04 +0000
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          Re: Set/get console cursor position without use ncurses Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2012-11-19 22:43 +0000
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              Re: Set/get console cursor position without use ncurses Chris Cox <chrisncoxn@endlessnow.com> - 2012-11-20 09:14 -0600
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            Re: Set/get console cursor position without use ncurses "Max" <noname@noreply.com> - 2012-11-21 09:19 +0000
              Re: Set/get console cursor position without use ncurses Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2012-11-21 09:34 +0000
                Re: Set/get console cursor position without use ncurses "Max" <noname@noreply.com> - 2012-11-21 10:59 +0000
                Re: Set/get console cursor position without use ncurses Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2012-11-21 11:54 +0000
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                Re: Set/get console cursor position without use ncurses "Max" <noname@noreply.com> - 2012-11-23 09:11 +0000
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                Re: Set/get console cursor position without use ncurses "Max" <noname@noreply.com> - 2012-11-23 16:27 +0000
                Re: Set/get console cursor position without use ncurses Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2012-11-23 20:13 +0000
                Re: Set/get console cursor position without use ncurses Rainer Weikusat <rweikusat@mssgmbh.com> - 2012-11-23 14:54 +0000
                Re: Set/get console cursor position without use ncurses John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2012-11-22 08:03 -0600
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                Re: Set/get console cursor position without use ncurses John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2012-11-21 11:11 -0600
              Re: Set/get console cursor position without use ncurses Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2012-11-21 10:20 -0700
              Re: Set/get console cursor position without use ncurses Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2012-11-21 17:23 +0000
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