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Re: Can you make living with Linux?

From William Poaster <wp@dev.null>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Can you make living with Linux?
Date 2017-03-31 15:05 +0100
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On 31/3/2017 13:46 in comp.os.linux.advocacy, Peter Köhlmann posted:

> DFS wrote:
>
>> On 3/30/2017 9:08 PM, Silver-Tongued Heel wrote:
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>>> On 30/03/17 09:00 PM, DFS wrote:
>>>> On 3/30/2017 6:05 PM, William Poaster wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The fact is, & DooFu$ won't like it, is that in the *overall*
>>>>> world of computing, M$ is a bit player. Hell, they even run
>>>>> *their* cloud using Linux & *not* windows.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ho hum.  Another one of your short and dumb retorts - hey, it's
>>>> just like you.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1) there's no such thing as an "overall world of computing".  This
>>>> is an idiot term made up by God knows who (cola bozos probably) to
>>>> minimize Microsoft's dominance in their own lives.
>>>>
>>>> "Sure I make a living with Windows, and my company and every one of
>>>> my family and friends runs Windows, but my toaster runs Linux.  I
>>>> told you Microsoft is a 'bit player' in computing!"
>>>
>>> That's not entirely fair.
>> 
>> 
>> You're right.  His constant lies and idiocy about Linux and Windows is
>> eminently unfair.  But it's Usenet - you can't stop the drool.  All I
>> can do is continue virtual brassknuckle beatdowns of that buffoon and
>> anyone who supports him, including you, if that's the path you've chosen.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> In the case of William, he's referring to
>>> the fact that Linux is found in things such as cell phones, tablets
>>> and inexpensive media players. Hell, my cable box uses Linux in it as
>>> does my router.
>> 
>> 
>> My old ATT U-verse box ran Windows CE.
>> My current cable box (Motorola DCT) runs custom non-Linux firmware.
>> My cell phone runs iOS.
>> My wife's tablet runs iOS.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> If I'm not mistaken, Linux is also appearing in the
>>> media systems found in cars which, so far, are way better than the
>>> ones which run Windows CE like what Ford forced onto its customers.
>> 
>> So it's OK to force Linux systems, but not Windows systems, onto your
>> customers?
>
> You are aware that WinCE was extremely shitty, are you?
> The Ford car system had a very bad reputation for a reason

Perhaps DooFu$ should check what his router is running, & get rid of it
if it's running Linux. Also check his smart tv (if he has one) & if it's
running Linux he'd better get rid of it & get a windows one *if* he can.
He'd better check what servers his ISP is running too, windows or Linux?
If he flies, he'd better check what avionics the plane is using, &
refuse to board if it's *not* running windows! Also safety-critical systems,
such as the head-down primary guidance flight displays (which use
safety-certifiable RTOS such as VxWorks/Cert and VxWorks 653 and others); and
non-critical systems (a.k.a. mission critical systems), which include
secondary guidance systems such as digital map display (such as TARDIS)
and Head-Up Displays (HUD), which although they do not have an RTCA
DO-178B safety certification requirement today, this could possibly be
mandated in the future. The increasing adoption of Linux in A&D for
mission-critical enterprise and embedded applications in recent times,
for example RSTA-MEP and the Linux Crewstation & Boeing P-8A
Multi-Mission Aircraft (Linux Sys-Con) respectively.
And he can't fly Airbus aircraft, they use SELinux & various Linux
avionics too.
He goes by train? It's quite likely the railroad companies use RHEL or
SLES in their mission-critical control & data center services. 
It seems he uses iOS cellphone, well he'd better make sure his telecomms
provider isn't using Carrier Grade Telecomms Linux (CGL). 
He drives a car? Well unless it's that Ford car windows system that you
mentioned, he'd better ensure his vehicle isn't using AGL (Auto Grade
Linux) in its onboard computer, which is installed in Honda, Mazda,
Suzuki, Mercedes-Benz, Toyota, Nissan, Mitsubishi, Subaru, GM, VW,
Jaguar Land Rover, & also AGL is being studied by Ford for
Installation in their vehicles.

The *only* place where M$ windoze dominates is on the desktop, & as I
said in the *overall* world of computing, M$ is a bit player.
And obviously DooFu$ didn't like that!  

-- 
The troll is but a walking shadow, a poor player that struts 
and frets his hour upon the stage and then is heard no more: 
his is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
(With acknowledgement to W.S.)

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    Re: Can you make living with Linux? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-03-30 10:32 -0400
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