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Re: Global Warming is not real science

From	owl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: Global Warming is not real science
Date	2014-11-26 04:23 +0000
Organization	ok by me, so long as it doesn't get out of hand
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Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 11/25/14, 8:18 PM, in article m53gq3$q3o$4@dont-email.me, "DFS"
> <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:

>> On 11/25/2014 8:16 PM, owl wrote:
>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>> On 11/24/2014 7:27 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, November 24, 2014 4:21:08 PM UTC-7, DFS wrote:
>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hoaxer moron denials make me a little angry, but in the end you
>>>>>> dumbasses have to live with yourselves and your stupid paranoia.
>>>>> 
>>>>> No point in being angry, people like owl, Slimer, etc., obviously have
>>>>> brain chemistry issues.
>>> 
>>>> You have to be really weak-minded - a real lamebrain putz - to be a 9/11
>>>> or Sandy Hook 'truther'.
>>> 
>>> I say Emilie Parker (far right) was photoshopped into this family photo:
>>> 
>>> http://jazztruther.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/hi-res-photoshopped1.jpeg
>>> 
>>> What do you think?
>> 
>> 
>> I doubt it was, but I'm sure it's possible.  Experts can do magic with
>> Photoshop.

> I am not saying it is altered, nor claiming to have any expertise in the
> area (though I have done a fair amount of digital editing myself), but I
> will say the color of that shirt is brighter than the rest (and perhaps her
> pants as well) and the placement of where she is sitting seems a bit odd to
> me. The look of the grass in front of her, though, seems to exactly match
> that of the grass in front of the (I presume) father's knee. It would be
> hard to do that (though that grass could also be added - it does not seem to
> match the rest and seems, to me, a bit oddly transparent).

> I also did some basic "tricks" to look for differences. I heavily increased
> the saturation, tried a couple different blend modes, and looked at the RGB
> channels individually. I did not see anything that seemed to suggest the
> girl was added using those methods other, perhaps, a slight glow around the
> father's knee and leg that *might* be a little fishy.

> I then went one step further and saved the image at a fairly high quality as
> a JPG and re-imported it. I put that over the original and set the blend
> mode to "difference". I added a Levels layer over that and set to see the
> differences better. This will often show (or so I have read and seen in a
> couple examples myself) if there have been different levels of artifacts.
> Not sure why but this seems to bring out different levels of JPG artifacts
> from previous edits. I saw nothing to suggest any added images or other
> trickery.

> Again: not saying she was or was not Photoshopped in... but to my untrained
> eye it seems possible but quite unlikely... though a bit more likely than,
> say, the other people having been added. Still, without good evidence to say
> she was added it would be irresponsible for anyone to make that claim. If
> she was it was done well.

The mother admitted to photoshopping Emilie into the pic.

http://theparkerfive.wordpress.com/2014/09/03/did-a-conspiracy-theorist-just-made-me-laugh/

Her explanation is a bit odd though.

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Re: Global Warming is not real science DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-11-24 18:21 -0500
  Re: Global Warming is not real science Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-11-24 16:27 -0800
    Re: Global Warming is not real science owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-11-25 03:08 +0000
      Re: Global Warming is not real science DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-11-24 23:52 -0500
    Re: Global Warming is not real science DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-11-25 09:17 -0500
      Re: Global Warming is not real science owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-11-26 01:16 +0000
        Re: Global Warming is not real science DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-11-25 22:18 -0500
          Re: Global Warming is not real science owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-11-26 03:55 +0000
            Re: Global Warming is not real science Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-11-25 21:18 -0700
              Re: Global Warming is not real science owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-11-26 04:30 +0000
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-11-25 21:38 -0700
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-11-26 07:50 -0800
          Re: Global Warming is not real science Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-11-25 21:13 -0700
            Re: Global Warming is not real science owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-11-26 04:23 +0000
              Re: Global Warming is not real science Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-11-25 21:56 -0700
        Re: Global Warming is not real science Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-11-26 13:27 -0500
          Re: Global Warming is not real science Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-11-26 12:56 -0700
            Re: Global Warming is not real science Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-11-26 13:02 -0700
            Re: Global Warming is not real science Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-11-26 21:59 +0100
              Re: Global Warming is not real science Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-11-26 14:35 -0700
              Re: Global Warming is not real science Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-11-27 06:35 -0500
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-11-27 08:58 -0700
              Re: Global Warming is not real science Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2014-11-27 14:11 +0000
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-11-27 15:26 +0100
                Re: Global Warming is not real science WaRmNfUzZy <warmnfuzzi@muzzimail.net> - 2014-11-27 09:28 -0500
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-11-27 10:02 -0500
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-11-27 09:17 -0700
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-11-27 17:09 -0500
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-11-27 14:24 -0800
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-11-27 09:14 -0700
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-11-27 08:39 -0800
                Re: Global Warming is not real science WaRmNfUzZy <warmnfuzzi@muzzimail.net> - 2014-11-27 12:08 -0500
                Re: Global Warming is not real science tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2014-11-27 11:15 -0800
                Re: Global Warming is not real science vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2014-11-27 17:50 -0800
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-11-27 19:11 -0700
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-11-27 19:29 -0800
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-11-27 09:19 -0700
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-11-27 08:51 -0800
                Re: Global Warming is not real science WaRmNfUzZy <warmnfuzzi@muzzimail.net> - 2014-11-27 12:09 -0500
                Re: Global Warming is not real science tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2014-11-27 11:10 -0800
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-11-27 14:11 -0700
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2014-11-27 22:41 +0000
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-11-27 23:56 +0100
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-11-27 16:49 -0700
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-11-27 16:57 -0700
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-11-27 19:24 -0800
                Re: Global Warming is not real science vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2014-11-27 19:11 -0800
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-11-27 20:38 -0700
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-11-27 19:52 -0800
                Re: Global Warming is not real science vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2014-11-27 20:01 -0800
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-11-27 21:06 -0700
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-11-28 09:56 +0100
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-11-28 09:34 -0700
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2014-11-28 17:40 +0100
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-11-28 09:48 -0700
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-11-28 09:35 -0800
                Re: Global Warming is not real science vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2014-11-28 11:12 -0800
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-11-28 12:25 -0700
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-11-28 14:30 -0800
                Re: Global Warming is not real science DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-11-28 20:44 -0500
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-11-28 19:07 -0700
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-11-28 07:52 -0800
                Re: Global Warming is not real science WaRmNfUzZy <warmnfuzzi@muzzimail.net> - 2014-11-28 11:31 -0500
            Re: Global Warming is not real science Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-11-26 17:08 -0500
              Re: Global Warming is not real science Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-11-26 15:43 -0700
  Re: Global Warming is not real science owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-11-25 03:14 +0000
    Re: Global Warming is not real science Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-11-24 20:24 -0700
      Re: Global Warming is not real science owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-11-25 03:31 +0000
        Re: Global Warming is not real science Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-11-24 20:41 -0700
          Re: Global Warming is not real science owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-11-25 03:50 +0000
            Re: Global Warming is not real science Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-11-24 20:54 -0700
              Re: Global Warming is not real science owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-11-25 04:06 +0000
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-11-24 20:39 -0800
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-11-25 09:06 -0700
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-11-25 08:31 -0800
                Re: Global Warming is not real science owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-11-25 18:12 +0000
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-11-25 12:05 -0700
                Re: Global Warming is not real science owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-11-25 19:12 +0000
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-11-25 12:22 -0700
                Re: Global Warming is not real science owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-11-25 19:37 +0000
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-11-25 13:09 -0700
                Re: Global Warming is not real science owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-11-25 21:51 +0000

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