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Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates

From Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates
Date 2013-04-11 13:44 -0700
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On 4/11/13 1:09 PM, in article slrnkme64d.8ed.jedi@nomad.mishnet, "JEDIDIAH"
<jedi@nomad.mishnet> wrote:

> On 2013-04-11, TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2013-04-10, the following emerged from the brain of Snit:
>> 
>> 8<
>> 
>>>> It's simple: a mate desktop program doesn't fit in on a Gnome3
>>>> desktop. Menus, widgets, icon sets... Completely different.
>>> 
>>> I would like to see examples of menu naming and placement
>>> differences.
>> 
>> I said menu widgets, ie. the building blocks of the menus and
>> toolbars. I don't think there are any /structural/ differences between
>> Gnome2/Mate and Gnome3/Cinnamon, although there /might/ be.
>> 
>>>> Because people can do and will do whatever they like, no matter how
>>>> many of us want UI standardization on the "Linux desktop".
>>> 
>>> Is anyone suggesting people should not use what they like? Not sure
>>> what you are arguing against here.
>> 
>> If there's standardization, people (as in developers that is) can no
>> longer do whatever they like. That's quite obvious, right?
> 
> Standards of this kind are NEVER enforced.

Right! I am glad you understand what I am talking about.

> They are at best conventions that may or may not be reflected in the templates
> and sample code that the relevant development tools generate. They are more
> like suggestions that indivuals are still free to ignore completely.

Exactly what I am speaking of.

> This is more common on Windows but just as possible on MacOS.

I used that example as well - talked about developers not following the
recommendations for OS X programs and how they talked about how they needed
to.
 
> There aren't hooks in the GUI to enforce such standards or to allow
> programmers to build their interfaces in terms of them. It's just up to
> everyone to recreate whatever has been agreed to.

Or to tie into what is already there ...

> Otherwise, old programs could just conform to any new interface standard that
> was decided upon rather than everything needing to be recreated from scratch
> every time someone tries to change direction.

And this *does* happen to a large degree.

> [deletia]
> 
> It's kind of like cooperative multitasking.

Decent analogy. Sure.

Thank you. Hopefully this helps those struggling to understand what I am
talking about.

-- 
"Actually, I would like to know from Snit exactly how watching movies of
naked people having sex is harmful to children." - Mark S Bilk

Proof: the Stallman cult is repulsive.

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Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2013-03-30 17:15 -0400
  Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2013-03-31 06:42 +0000
    Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2013-03-31 10:10 +0100
      Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2013-03-31 12:30 +0200
        Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2013-03-31 07:34 -0400
          Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> - 2013-03-31 23:00 +0100
            Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-03-31 15:16 -0700
              Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2013-03-31 23:33 +0100
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-03-31 15:55 -0700
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2013-04-01 01:07 +0200
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-03-31 16:10 -0700
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2013-04-02 18:14 +0000
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-02 14:27 -0700
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2013-04-06 13:47 +0200
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2013-04-06 08:30 -0400
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2013-04-06 13:53 +0100
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-06 11:50 -0700
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-06 11:44 -0700
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2013-03-31 20:04 -0400
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-03-31 17:20 -0700
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2013-03-31 22:50 -0400
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2013-04-01 03:54 +0100
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-03-31 20:12 -0700
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-03-31 19:54 -0700
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> - 2013-04-01 10:58 +0100
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2013-04-02 07:44 -0500
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-02 06:54 -0700
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2013-04-02 07:59 -0500
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-02 07:01 -0700
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2013-04-03 08:53 -0400
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2013-04-04 06:58 +0100
          Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2013-03-31 23:12 +0100
            Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2013-04-01 17:56 -0400
              Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2013-04-01 16:29 -0600
          Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-03-31 15:14 -0700
        Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-03-31 15:07 -0700
      Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-03-31 15:05 -0700
    Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-03-31 15:03 -0700
      Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2013-04-01 15:41 +0000
        Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-01 13:11 -0700
          Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2013-04-03 22:26 +0000
            Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-03 16:48 -0700
              Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2013-04-06 06:08 +0000
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-06 00:24 -0700
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2013-04-06 14:01 +0200
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2013-04-06 08:33 -0400
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2013-04-06 13:53 +0100
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2013-04-06 08:57 -0400
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2013-04-06 14:05 +0100
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-06 11:53 -0700
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-06 11:52 -0700
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-06 11:50 -0700
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-06 11:35 -0700
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2013-04-06 23:44 +0000
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-06 18:15 -0700
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2013-04-08 16:56 +0000
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-08 10:39 -0700
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2013-04-09 20:12 +0200
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2013-04-09 16:19 -0400
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-09 13:56 -0700
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2013-04-09 14:01 -0700
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2013-04-09 14:18 -0700
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2013-04-10 20:58 +0000
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-10 14:42 -0700
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2013-04-11 18:29 +0000
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-11 12:50 -0700
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2013-04-12 15:55 +0000
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-12 09:56 -0700
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2013-04-11 15:09 -0500
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-11 13:44 -0700
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2013-04-12 10:40 +0100
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-12 06:34 -0700
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2013-04-08 15:31 -0700
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2013-04-07 08:49 +0200
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-07 09:06 -0700
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2013-04-07 17:02 +0000
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-07 10:43 -0700
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2013-04-08 07:36 -0500
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2013-04-10 21:30 +0000
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-10 14:45 -0700
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2013-04-11 07:28 -0500
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-11 06:36 -0700
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2013-04-08 11:28 -0500
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-08 09:44 -0700
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2013-04-06 14:49 -0400
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-06 12:04 -0700
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2013-04-06 20:16 +0000
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-06 13:28 -0700
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> - 2013-04-06 22:56 +0100
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-06 15:09 -0700
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2013-04-08 07:45 -0500
                chrisv proves his cult-like tendencies again Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-08 06:57 -0700
                Re: chrisv proves his cult-like tendencies again Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2013-04-08 07:03 -0700
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2013-04-06 07:00 -0400
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> - 2013-04-06 12:52 +0100
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-06 11:48 -0700
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-06 11:46 -0700
        Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Sinister Midget <fardblossom@gmail.com> - 2013-04-01 20:27 -0500
          Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-01 19:46 -0700
          Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> - 2013-04-02 10:27 +0100
            Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Sinister Midget <fardblossom@gmail.com> - 2013-04-02 05:46 -0500
              Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-02 06:53 -0700
            Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Gregory Shearman <ZekeGregory@netscape.net> - 2013-04-02 13:22 +0000
              Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-02 07:01 -0700
            Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-02 06:53 -0700
  Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-03-31 15:02 -0700
  Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2013-03-31 22:45 +0000
    Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2013-03-31 18:49 -0400
      Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-03-31 16:02 -0700
    Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-03-31 15:54 -0700
      Onion Knight posts decent article on Linux Advocates 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2013-04-01 00:05 +0100
    Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2013-03-31 20:05 -0400
      Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-03-31 17:24 -0700
        Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2013-03-31 20:43 -0400
          Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-03-31 19:03 -0700
    Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Marti Van Lin <ml2mst@dontevenbother.invalid> - 2013-04-01 19:56 +0200
      Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates "Cola Zealot" <Cola_Zealot@fuckoff.com> - 2013-04-01 21:25 +0200
        Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Marti Van Lin <ml2mst@dontevenbother.invalid> - 2013-04-02 15:59 +0200
          Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-02 07:05 -0700
            Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2013-04-02 12:32 -0400
              Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-02 14:25 -0700
          Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2013-04-02 09:11 -0500
            Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-02 07:19 -0700
            Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2013-04-02 17:57 -0400
              Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2013-04-04 06:56 +0100
            Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2013-04-02 21:42 -0600
              Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2013-04-03 08:53 -0400
          Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2013-04-02 12:21 -0400
            Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-02 14:24 -0700
          Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2013-04-02 17:57 -0400
      Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-01 13:12 -0700

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