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Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates

From Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates
Date 2013-03-31 15:14 -0700
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On 3/31/13 4:34 AM, in article kj96sp$ja1$1@dont-email.me, "Chris Ahlstrom"
<OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

>> And now (anytime soon, I guess) you will bring some examples of applications
>> behaving like that.
>> 
>> You are aware that you are (once again) full of shit,
>> Hadron Snit Msg-ID Larry?
>> 
>> Applications like that exist, but they are rare. And to top it off, they
>> exist on all platforms, and especially on your beloved windows.
>> 
>> About the situation on linux you simply havbe no clue, because you don't run
>> any linux, and never have
> 
> There's been a lot of talk on G+ recently about standardization Linux on
> a single package manager, single directory layout, a single desktop
> environment.
> 
> While this is desirable for certain types of users and developers, it's
> never going to happen.  At best, some company will come to the fore and
> eventually the way it does things will become a standard of sorts.  Red Hat
> used to be such a company on the desktop, but it withdrew to the
> enterprise market, where it is a pretty standard platform.  Ubuntu has
> been trying, but getting almost nowhere in the face of Microsoft's
> dominance.  Google's been stepping up with Android, and, to a lesser
> extent, ChromeOS, but again, you'll find a lot of people who don't like
> where they're going.
> 
> As for the insane Quark troll whining about desktop variation,
> apparently he's never had the experience of going up to someone else's
> Windows workstation and finding that they set up things differently from
> what he likes.
> 
> At all levels, customization and specialization is *unavoidable*,
> especially in open-source land.
> 
> All this talk about standardizing every aspect of Linux is wishful
> thinking.

The problem is not that one desktop is different from another, or even that
a single desktop is inconsistent within itself... the problem is that the
*choice* to have a desktop which is (even mostly) consistent with itself is
not an easy thing to achieve and you have to give up quite a bit to get
there. Then again, the situation has improved a lot over the last few years
... and it will only continue to get better.

This is what I have been advocating for and speaking about for years... only
to have you and other COLA "advocates" say this means I am anti-choice (but
what choice? You could never say), do not understand the open source
ecosystem (even though my predictions have largely come true), or am
anti-Linux.... all sorts of bizarre attacks and insults.

And time is showing I am right... at least mostly. I am sure there are
details I was wrong about... but I surely was a lot more spot on than most
of the "advocates". As I have noted, at least in this area the "advocates"
have a history of not knowing much about the open source ecosystem.

-- 
"Maybe there is someone who considers it disgusting for a parrot to have sex
with a human. Or for a dolphin or tiger to have sex with a human. So what?
Others feel that all sex is disgusting." -- Richard Stallman

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  Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2013-03-31 06:42 +0000
    Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2013-03-31 10:10 +0100
      Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2013-03-31 12:30 +0200
        Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2013-03-31 07:34 -0400
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            Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-03-31 15:16 -0700
              Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2013-03-31 23:33 +0100
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-03-31 15:55 -0700
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2013-04-01 01:07 +0200
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-03-31 16:10 -0700
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2013-04-02 18:14 +0000
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-02 14:27 -0700
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2013-03-31 20:04 -0400
                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-03-31 17:20 -0700
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                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-03-31 20:12 -0700
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                Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> - 2013-04-01 10:58 +0100
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      Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-03-31 15:05 -0700
    Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-03-31 15:03 -0700
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      Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-03-31 17:24 -0700
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          Re: Snit posts decent article on Linux Advocates Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-02 07:05 -0700
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