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  How to empty recycle bin Fokke Nauta <usenet@solfon.nl> - 2025-11-27 18:01 +0100
    Re: How to empty recycle bin Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-11-27 18:23 +0100
    Re: How to empty recycle bin VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-11-27 12:02 -0600
    Re: How to empty recycle bin "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-11-29 13:55 +0100
      Re: How to empty recycle bin Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-11-29 13:26 +0000
        Re: How to empty recycle bin Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-11-29 15:49 +0100
          Re: How to empty recycle bin Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-11-29 15:06 +0000
        Re: How to empty recycle bin "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-11-29 16:13 +0100
          Re: How to empty recycle bin Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-11-29 15:59 +0000
            Re: How to empty recycle bin AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-11-29 17:12 +0000
              Re: How to empty recycle bin Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-11-29 19:44 +0000
                Re: How to empty recycle bin AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-11-29 19:54 +0000
                  Re: How to empty recycle bin Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-11-30 10:52 +0000
                    Re: How to empty recycle bin AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-11-30 15:58 +0000
                      Re: How to empty recycle bin Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-12-01 13:31 +0000
                        Re: How to empty recycle bin Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-12-01 17:43 +0100
                        Re: How to empty recycle bin AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-12-01 16:44 +0000
                          Re: How to empty recycle bin "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-12-01 18:23 +0100
                            Re: How to empty recycle bin Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-12-01 18:31 +0000
                              Re: How to empty recycle bin [OT] "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-12-01 21:08 +0100
                          English "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-02 13:10 +0100
                            Re: English "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-12-02 14:53 +0100
                              Re: English "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-02 15:10 +0100
                                Re: English "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-02 22:36 +0100
                              Re: English Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-12-02 16:57 +0100
                                Re: English "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-12-02 20:37 +0100
                              Re: English Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-12-02 17:01 +0000
                                Re: English "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-12-02 20:48 +0100
                    Re: How to empty recycle bin "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-12-01 18:22 +0100
        Re: How to empty recycle bin knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-29 12:04 -0500
          Re: How to empty recycle bin "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-12-01 16:29 +0100
      Re: How to empty recycle bin "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-11-29 16:09 +0100
    Re: How to empty recycle bin Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-11-29 21:07 +0100
      Re: How to empty recycle bin Marian <marianjones@helpfulpeople.com> - 2025-11-29 13:57 -0700

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#151550 — English

On 2025-12-01 17:44, AJL wrote:
> On 12/1/25 6:31 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>> AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
>>> On 11/30/25 3:52 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>>>> AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 11/29/25 12:44 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>>>>>> AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote: [...]
>>>>>>> The trash feature has saved me several times over the 
>>>>>>> years. Especially when I get pissed and delete something 
>>>>>>> and then later have a change of heart. Like Usenet? 
>>>>>>> Nah...  8-O
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You *do* realise that this group also has some UK English 
>>>>>> speaking audience, don't you!? :-)
>>>>>>> Sorry, don't understand. Did I say something different 
>>>>>>> in UK English? Clue me in...
>>>> 
>>>> "when I get pissed..." -> "when I get very drunk..."
>>> 
>>> Ah. Didn't know that. Thanks. Ok, for the UK English folks out 
>>> there when I say I got pissed I meant I got mad. I actually 
>>> shortened it from its proper term of pissed off. That might have 
>>> helped the confusion? Anyway I'll try not to dick around next 
>>> time. Gee I hope the word dick doesn't confuse things...  8-O
>> 
>> The UK English folks *do* use "pissed off", with the same meaning 
>> as yours, but without the " off" part, the difference is as I 
>> described.
>> 
>> This is what the Google 'AI Overview' for a "pissed in UK
>> English" search says:
>> 
>> "In UK English, "pissed" means very drunk. To convey the meaning 
>> of being angry, British speakers say "pissed off". "
>> 
>> Disclaimer: English is not my native language and Google's AI 
>> might be wrong.
> 
> I don't speak anything but English but I understand it's one of the 
> hardest languages to learn. I have enough problems with it myself so 
> I admire those of you that can speak it as a second language. I 
> suppose the word piss (urinate), pissed (drunk or mad per Oxford), 
> or pissed off (mad) is an example of it's complications.
> 
> Anyway I now return this group to its regularly scheduled agenda...

I do not find English particularly difficult. German is worse.

There are no declinations, no verbal forms, aside from the "s" on 
"he/she". Correct spelling is a bitch, though: we have to learn by heart 
both the spelling and the pronunciation of each word. They never 
bothered to try to teach us the rules.

Yes, there are nuances as the same word having several different 
meaning. You can never learn it perfectly, there are subtle meaning that 
are really cultural.

Still, it is a very viable language for international exchange. I tried 
to learn French as an adult, did not manage that well.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#151553 — Re: English

On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 13:10:15 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> I do not find English particularly difficult. German is worse.

I agree and my native language, Dutch, is related to German. I studied
German for 2 years and it was a PITA.
 
> There are no declinations, no verbal forms, aside from the "s" on 
> "he/she". Correct spelling is a bitch, though: we have to learn by heart 
> both the spelling and the pronunciation of each word. They never 
> bothered to try to teach us the rules.

Well, there's rules and then there's exception from the rules.
 
> Yes, there are nuances as the same word having several different 
> meaning. You can never learn it perfectly, there are subtle meaning that 
> are really cultural.
> 
> Still, it is a very viable language for international exchange.

That's what all Germans think. (-;

> I tried 
> to learn French as an adult, did not manage that well.

We had to learn French from the age of 12 and then another 6 years. IMHO
it's easier than German.

-- 
s|b

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#151554 — Re: English

On 2025-12-02 14:53, s|b wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 13:10:15 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> I do not find English particularly difficult. German is worse.
> 
> I agree and my native language, Dutch, is related to German. I studied
> German for 2 years and it was a PITA.
>   
>> There are no declinations, no verbal forms, aside from the "s" on
>> "he/she". Correct spelling is a bitch, though: we have to learn by heart
>> both the spelling and the pronunciation of each word. They never
>> bothered to try to teach us the rules.
> 
> Well, there's rules and then there's exception from the rules.

Spanish has exact rules that can be written in a single page :-)
We always know the exact correct pronunciation for a written word. The 
reverse is not true, there can be several spellings that sound the same, 
so we need a speller or dictionary (or memory).


>   
>> Yes, there are nuances as the same word having several different
>> meaning. You can never learn it perfectly, there are subtle meaning that
>> are really cultural.
>>
>> Still, it is a very viable language for international exchange.
> 
> That's what all Germans think. (-;
> 
>> I tried
>> to learn French as an adult, did not manage that well.
> 
> We had to learn French from the age of 12 and then another 6 years. IMHO
> it's easier than German.

It is easier at that age.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#151577 — Re: English

On 2025-12-02 15:56, Stefan Ram wrote:
> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote or quoted:
>> On 2025-12-02 14:53, s|b wrote:
>>> We had to learn French from the age of 12 and then another 6 years. IMHO
>>> it's easier than German.
>> It is easier at that age.
> 
>    I'm a late self-taught learner of French myself. I can
>    understand simple texts with no special vocabulary, but
>    can't speak nor write myself.
> 
>    The "equal complexity hypothesis" claims that, in the end, all
>    language have the same complexity. One language might have fewer
>    word forms but makes up for this by a more complex grammar etc.
> 
>    Measured by the number of hours of instruction required
>    to bring native English speakers to a certain level of
>    proficiency, the simplest languages are French (indeed!),
>    Afrikaans, Danish, Dutch, Haitian Creole, Italian, Norwegian,
>    Portuguese, Romanian, Spanish, Swahili, and Swedish.
> 
>    German is in the next, more difficult, group together with
>    Bulgarian, Dari, Farsi (Persian), (Modern) Greek, Hindi-Urdu,
>    Indonesian and Malay.
> 
>    But the list does not stop here, the third group has languages
>    that are even more difficult than German: Amharic, Bengali,
>    Burmese, Czech, Finnish, (Modern) Hebrew, Hungarian, Khmer
>    (Cambodian), Lao, Nepali, Pilipino (Tagalog), Polish, Russian,
>    Serbo-Croatian, Sinhala, Thai, Tamil, Turkish, and Vietnamese.
> 
>    And, finally, we have the most difficult languages of all
>    (as far as languages were part of that survey): Arabic,
>    Chinese, Japanese, and Korean.

Interesting list!

> 
>    So, how much French can I understand?
> 
>    Well, I listened to TV shows, and whenever I got something,
>    I wrote it down. So here are some French sentences I once understood
>    listening to TV shows. (I would not have been able to write them down
>    in correct French spelling, so I used a service for the writing.)
> 
> Monsieur Data, vous prenez les commandes.
> 
> Vous êtes capable de rire.
> 
> Vous pouvez disposer. (Here, I actually got the meaning of
>    "disposer" from the situation in the TV show.)
> 
> Vous avez des raisons personnelles ?
> 
> Ma mémoire fonctionne parfaitement bien.
> 
> alimentation principale, alimentation de secours
> 
> Je crois que maintenant ça marche.
> 
> . . . (about 160 lines altogether)

:-)


I started to read "Vingt Mille Lieues sous les mers", but my teacher 
told me to stop, because I would get a bad pronunciation. However, it is 
what I did with English, reading first Enid Blyton then Agatha Christie.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#151556 — Re: English

On 02.12.25 14:53, s|b wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 13:10:15 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> I do not find English particularly difficult. German is worse.
> 
> I agree and my native language, Dutch, is related to German. I studied
> German for 2 years and it was a PITA.

I tend to disagree. Basic English is easy to learn but a sophisticated
let's say Shakespearian English is quite different.

The real challenge for speakers of Germanic based languages are the
Latin languages.

Let me tell you that as someone living in a country with four languages.

Bonne soirée!

Jörg

-- 
"Roma locuta, causa finita."

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#151570 — Re: English

On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 16:57:07 +0100, Jörg Lorenz wrote:

> I tend to disagree. Basic English is easy to learn but a sophisticated
> let's say Shakespearian English is quite different.

Do people still speak that?
 
> The real challenge for speakers of Germanic based languages are the
> Latin languages.

I studied Latin for 6 years, but this was only one way. Translations to
Dutch. Still, a good base for learning Spanish.
 
> Let me tell you that as someone living in a country with four languages.

That's one more than Belgium.
 
> Bonne soirée!

Goeienavond!

-- 
s|b

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#151562 — Re: English

s|b wrote:

> Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> I do not find English particularly difficult. German is worse.
> 
> I agree and my native language, Dutch, is related to German. I studied
> German for 2 years and it was a PITA.
I heard that unless you grow up as a child in a Dutch speaking 
household, you may well learn the language, but will never get the 
phonetics right?

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#151571 — Re: English

On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 17:01:56 +0000, Andy Burns wrote:

> I heard that unless you grow up as a child in a Dutch speaking 
> household, you may well learn the language, but will never get the 
> phonetics right?

I don't know. Children pick up new languages pretty easy. It's different
for adults.

I think Queen Maxima of the Netherlands speaks Dutch very well, better
than the King an Queen of Belgium. They've got horrible French accents.

-- 
s|b

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#151540

On 30 Nov 2025 10:52:33 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:

>   "when I get pissed..." -> "when I get very drunk..."

I prefer 'pished'.

-- 
s|b

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#151523

On 11/29/2025 8:26 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
>> On Thu, 27 Nov 2025 18:01:41 +0100, Fokke Nauta wrote:
>>
>>> My friend has a Samsung tablet with Android 11. We want to empty the
>>> recycle bin, but I can't find it. How can I find it?
>>
>> There's a recycle bin on Android? o-:
> 
>    Yes, but it's called 'the Trash'. And like on Windows, it's a per-app
> function. (I don't know which 'apps' other than (Windows) File Explorer
> use the Recycle Bin.)
> 
>    An advantage of the Android-type Trash is that it is timed, typically
> for 30 days, so after an item is deleted, it will be kept for 30 days.
> 
>    So my Windows Recycle Bin is nearly always empty, because I don't like
> cruft, but my Android Trash cans just empty themselves.
> 
>    (And yes, I of course saw and noted the smiley.)
On my Motorola G pure cellphone, in the Settings, I can see the and 
delete the amount of data in documents, images, apps, and trash.  If I 
click Trash, and delete all of part.

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#151536

On Sat, 29 Nov 2025 12:04:55 -0500, knuttle wrote:

> On my Motorola G pure cellphone, in the Settings, I can see the and 
> delete the amount of data in documents, images, apps, and trash.  If I 
> click Trash, and delete all of part.

Found it. In Dutch it's called 'Prullenbak'. On my Pixel 10:

Settings > Storage > Trash

I can also find it in Files.

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePlDDEgaHrk>

-- 
s|b

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#151520

On 29 Nov 2025 13:10:41 GMT, Stefan Ram wrote:

> "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote or quoted:
>
> >There's a recycle bin on Android? o-:
 
>   Yeah, I was wondering about that too! I knew some file managers have
>   their own trash bins, so I figured the OP either uses one of those
>   or maybe some Android version I haven't heard of that includes one.

I was vaguely aware of files (pictures) not being removed immediately,
but staying available for 30 days or so.

I have Total Commander on my phone and when I remove files the name is
changed.

file.jpg

to

.file.jpg

I don't think Android's File Manager shows these hidden files, but I
believe they're automatically removed after 30 days.

-- 
s|b

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#151528

Fokke Nauta, 2025-11-27 18:01:

> My friend has a Samsung tablet with Android 11. We want to empty the 
> recycle bin, but I can't find it. How can I find it?

There is no "recycle bin" in Android. Only individual apps, like file
managers or picture galleries may have such a thing, but that depends on
the app.


-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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#151529

Arno Welzel wrote:
>> My friend has a Samsung tablet with Android 11. We want to empty the 
>> recycle bin, but I can't find it. How can I find it?
> 
> There is no "recycle bin" in Android. Only individual apps, like file
> managers or picture galleries may have such a thing, but that depends on
> the app.

To always strive to add value... 

As  many have stated already, there's only a per-app don't-delete-now but
delete-it-later concept in Android, where if the goal is to free up space,
one option is to use Device Care options (such as Settings > Battery and
device care > Storage) to clear cached data and unnecessary files.

While I hesitate to suggest "Files by Google" products, apparently it has a
duplicate finder & a large-file-size finder with its built-in "Clean" tab.

"Files by Google" also highlights unused apps and temporary files.

If the team wants to flesh out non-Google cleaners, this suggests some.
 <https://www.techcommuters.com/duplicate-files-remover-apps-for-android/>

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