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On 2025-12-02 15:56, Stefan Ram wrote:
> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote or quoted:
>> On 2025-12-02 14:53, s|b wrote:
>>> We had to learn French from the age of 12 and then another 6 years. IMHO
>>> it's easier than German.
>> It is easier at that age.
> 
>    I'm a late self-taught learner of French myself. I can
>    understand simple texts with no special vocabulary, but
>    can't speak nor write myself.
> 
>    The "equal complexity hypothesis" claims that, in the end, all
>    language have the same complexity. One language might have fewer
>    word forms but makes up for this by a more complex grammar etc.
> 
>    Measured by the number of hours of instruction required
>    to bring native English speakers to a certain level of
>    proficiency, the simplest languages are French (indeed!),
>    Afrikaans, Danish, Dutch, Haitian Creole, Italian, Norwegian,
>    Portuguese, Romanian, Spanish, Swahili, and Swedish.
> 
>    German is in the next, more difficult, group together with
>    Bulgarian, Dari, Farsi (Persian), (Modern) Greek, Hindi-Urdu,
>    Indonesian and Malay.
> 
>    But the list does not stop here, the third group has languages
>    that are even more difficult than German: Amharic, Bengali,
>    Burmese, Czech, Finnish, (Modern) Hebrew, Hungarian, Khmer
>    (Cambodian), Lao, Nepali, Pilipino (Tagalog), Polish, Russian,
>    Serbo-Croatian, Sinhala, Thai, Tamil, Turkish, and Vietnamese.
> 
>    And, finally, we have the most difficult languages of all
>    (as far as languages were part of that survey): Arabic,
>    Chinese, Japanese, and Korean.

Interesting list!

> 
>    So, how much French can I understand?
> 
>    Well, I listened to TV shows, and whenever I got something,
>    I wrote it down. So here are some French sentences I once understood
>    listening to TV shows. (I would not have been able to write them down
>    in correct French spelling, so I used a service for the writing.)
> 
> Monsieur Data, vous prenez les commandes.
> 
> Vous êtes capable de rire.
> 
> Vous pouvez disposer. (Here, I actually got the meaning of
>    "disposer" from the situation in the TV show.)
> 
> Vous avez des raisons personnelles ?
> 
> Ma mémoire fonctionne parfaitement bien.
> 
> alimentation principale, alimentation de secours
> 
> Je crois que maintenant ça marche.
> 
> . . . (about 160 lines altogether)

:-)


I started to read "Vingt Mille Lieues sous les mers", but my teacher 
told me to stop, because I would get a bad pronunciation. However, it is 
what I did with English, reading first Enid Blyton then Agatha Christie.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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