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Re: OT: spam phone calls

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First post2025-03-21 13:51 +0100
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  Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-21 13:51 +0100
    Re: OT: spam phone calls Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-21 11:23 -0400
      Re: OT: spam phone calls micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-21 12:32 -0400
        Re: OT: spam phone calls AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-03-21 16:46 +0000
        Re: OT: spam phone calls Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-21 18:52 +0000
          Re: OT: spam phone calls micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-03 08:00 -0400
            Re: OT: spam phone calls Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-03 12:14 +0000
              Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-03 14:22 +0200
                Re: OT: spam phone calls micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-07-01 09:17 -0400
              Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-02 19:53 +1000
                Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-02 12:35 +0200
                  Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-02 22:09 +1000
                    Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-02 20:20 +0200
                      Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-03 19:28 +1000
                        Re: OT: spam phone calls David Woolley <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> - 2025-07-03 12:39 +0100
                Re: OT: spam phone calls Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-07-02 14:40 +0000
                Re: OT: spam phone calls JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2025-07-03 09:05 +0100
                  Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-03 11:33 +0200
                    Re: OT: spam phone calls JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2025-07-03 12:18 +0100
                      Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-03 13:32 +0200
                        Re: OT: spam phone calls NY <me@privacy.net> - 2025-07-03 22:07 +0100
                          Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-04 03:17 +0200
                          Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-07-05 19:03 +0000
                            Re: OT: spam phone calls Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-07-05 21:14 +0000
                              Re: OT: spam phone calls JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2025-07-06 13:21 +0100
                                Re: OT: spam phone calls Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2025-07-06 13:21 +0000
                                Re: OT: spam phone calls Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-07-06 14:03 +0000
                            Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-06 18:56 +1000
                              Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-06 19:49 +1000
                              Re: OT: spam phone calls tony sayer <tony@bancom.co.uk> - 2025-07-06 19:35 +0100
                                Re: OT: spam phone calls James Heaton <heatonandmoore@gmail.com> - 2025-07-06 19:57 +0100
                            Re: OT: spam phone calls JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2025-07-06 13:18 +0100
                              Re: OT: spam phone calls Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-07-06 14:04 +0000
                              Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-07 19:03 +1000
                                Re: OT: spam phone calls "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-07 16:38 +0100
                                  Re: OT: spam phone calls Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-07-07 17:20 +0100
                                    OT: floppies (was: Re: OT: spam phone calls) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-07 17:43 +0100
                      Re: OT: spam phone calls David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2025-07-03 16:26 +0100
                        Tap to pay [Was: Re: OT: spam phone calls] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-03 20:04 +0200
                        Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-04 19:35 +1000
                          Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-04 11:46 +0200
                            Re: OT: spam phone calls Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2025-07-04 11:12 +0000
                              Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-04 13:24 +0200
                                Re: OT: spam phone calls "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-05 01:32 +0100
                                  Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-05 20:15 +1000
                                  Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-05 19:55 +0200
                  Re: OT: spam phone calls Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2025-07-03 11:20 +0100
                    Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-03 12:43 +0200
                      Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-03 23:00 +1000
                    Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-03 20:50 +1000
                    Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-07-03 19:29 +0000
                      Re: OT: spam phone calls "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-03 20:55 +0100
                        Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-07-05 19:13 +0000
                      Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-03 22:40 +0200
                        Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-07-05 19:18 +0000
                    Re: OT: spam phone calls NY <me@privacy.net> - 2025-07-03 22:13 +0100
            Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-03 14:13 +0200
        Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-22 14:53 +0100
          Re: OT: spam phone calls Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-22 12:10 -0400
            Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-03-22 17:06 +0000
              Re: OT: spam phone calls Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-22 13:24 -0400
                Re: OT: spam phone calls Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-22 22:43 +0100
              Re: OT: spam phone calls David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2025-03-22 20:36 +0000
                Re: OT: spam phone calls micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-03 08:27 -0400
            Re: OT: spam phone calls micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-03 08:22 -0400
          Re: OT: spam phone calls micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-03 08:07 -0400
            Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-03 14:19 +0200
              Re: OT: spam phone calls micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-03 09:14 -0400
                Re: OT: spam phone calls Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-04-03 18:10 +0200
          Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-28 23:01 +1000
            Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-28 19:42 +0000
              Re: OT: spam phone calls JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2025-04-28 21:04 +0100
                Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-29 17:37 +0000
                  Re: OT: spam phone calls Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-04-29 20:18 +0200
                    Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 20:54 +0200
                      Re: OT: spam phone calls Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-04-29 21:19 +0200
                        Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-30 19:06 +0000
                          Re: OT: spam phone calls Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-04-30 22:04 +0200
                            Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-05-01 16:54 +0000
                              Re: OT: spam phone calls Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-05-01 19:01 +0200
                                Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-03 21:30 +1000
                              Re: OT: spam phone calls Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-05-01 18:06 +0000
                          Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-03 21:26 +1000
                            Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-03 14:11 +0200
                            Re: OT: spam phone calls Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2025-05-03 15:08 +0100
                              Re: OT: spam phone calls Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-03 15:04 -0400
                                Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-03 23:41 +0200
                            Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-05-03 19:26 +0000
                      Re: OT: spam phone calls Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-04-30 06:36 +0200
                        Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-30 09:04 +0200
                        Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-30 19:01 +0000
                          Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-03 21:34 +1000
                    Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-30 18:53 +0000
              Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-29 20:27 +1000
                Re: OT: spam phone calls Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2025-04-29 15:03 +0100
                  Re: OT: spam phone calls Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2025-04-29 16:21 +0100
                  Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-29 17:58 +0000
                    Re: OT: spam phone calls JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2025-04-30 10:13 +0100
                    Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-01 00:07 +1000
                      Re: OT: spam phone calls Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2025-04-30 15:36 +0100
                        Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-30 18:50 +0000
                          Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-03 21:39 +1000
                            Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-05-03 19:23 +0000
                  Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 20:09 +0200
                  Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-01 00:02 +1000
                Re: OT: spam phone calls David Woolley <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> - 2025-04-29 18:30 +0100
                Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-29 17:48 +0000
                  Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-03 21:44 +1000
            Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 11:57 +0200
              Re: OT: spam phone calls Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-04-29 11:09 +0100
                Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 12:36 +0200
                  Re: OT: spam phone calls Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-04-29 11:48 +0100
                    Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 13:14 +0200
                      Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-03 21:54 +1000
              Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-29 20:29 +1000
                Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 12:39 +0200
            Re: OT: spam phone calls Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-30 13:36 +0000
              Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-03 21:56 +1000
            Re: OT: spam phone calls JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2025-05-24 10:17 +0100
              Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-05-24 17:05 +0000
    Re: OT: spam phone calls AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-03-21 16:10 +0000
      Re: OT: spam phone calls micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-21 12:34 -0400
        Re: OT: spam phone calls AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-03-21 16:52 +0000
      Re: OT: spam phone calls Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-21 16:48 +0000
        Re: OT: spam phone calls AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-03-21 17:11 +0000
    Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-03-21 18:11 +0000
      Re: OT: spam phone calls micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-03 08:28 -0400
        Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-03 14:37 +0200
    Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-08 21:55 +1000
      Re: OT: spam phone calls "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-04-08 08:10 -0400
        Re: OT: spam phone calls Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2025-04-08 13:52 +0100
          Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-08 20:33 +0000
            Re: OT: spam phone calls Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2025-04-09 11:45 +0100
              Re: OT: spam phone calls JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2025-04-10 09:16 +0100
                Re: OT: spam phone calls Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2025-04-10 09:33 +0100
                  Re: OT: spam phone calls JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2025-04-10 14:40 +0100
                    Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-29 21:23 +1000
                  Re: OT: spam phone calls Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2025-04-28 19:13 +0100
                    Re: OT: spam phone calls AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-04-28 18:59 +0000
                      Re: OT: spam phone calls Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-29 18:37 +0000
                        Browser lockup and other various subjects... AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-04-29 21:49 +0000
                          Re: Browser lockup and other various subjects... Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-30 14:43 +0000
                            Re: Browser lockup and other various subjects... AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-04-30 16:39 +0000
                              Re: Browser lockup and other various subjects... Siard <xx@xx.invalid> - 2025-04-30 23:24 +0200
                                Re: Browser lockup and other various subjects... AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-04-30 22:00 +0000
                    Re: OT: spam phone calls David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2025-04-28 21:19 +0100
                    Re: OT: spam phone calls knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-28 16:51 -0400
                      Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 12:42 +0200
                        Re: OT: spam phone calls Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> - 2025-04-29 11:35 +0000
                          Re: OT: spam phone calls Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-04-29 15:35 +0100
                            Re: OT: spam phone calls Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> - 2025-04-29 15:06 +0000
                              Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 20:15 +0200
                          Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 20:17 +0200
                        Re: OT: spam phone calls JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2025-04-29 12:57 +0100
        Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-08 20:23 +0000
        Re: OT: spam phone calls bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> - 2025-04-08 17:06 -0400
      Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-08 18:55 +0000
        Re: OT: spam phone calls David Woolley <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> - 2025-04-09 14:16 +0100
        Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-13 22:52 +1000
          Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-05-13 17:04 +0000
            Re: OT: spam phone calls AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-05-13 18:05 +0000
              Re: OT: spam phone calls Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-05-13 19:33 +0100
      Re: OT: spam phone calls Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-09 12:21 +0200
        Re: OT: spam phone calls ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-04-09 19:54 +0000
          Re: OT: spam phone calls Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-09 17:07 -0500
          Re: OT: spam phone calls JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2025-04-10 09:18 +0100
            Re: OT: spam phone calls Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2025-04-28 19:10 +0100
        Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-13 22:55 +1000

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#148284

FromMark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid>
Date2025-04-30 18:50 +0000
Message-ID<681270fe$0$16738$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#148280
On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 15:36:36 +0100, Woody wrote:

[snip]

> I had one of those a while back. Being a bit bored I decided to play
> along. He wanted me to find the Windows key and I kept leading him along
> showing I didn't have one. Eventually he said lets do it another way.
> 'Open up the Google' he said. I acted daft saying what did he mean. He
> asked if I knew what Google is to which I replied a browser. He said yes
> so open it. I said I can't, I'm using Safari on an Apple.
> Click, call gone.

I've been watching some scam-call videos on Youtube. These scammers often 
ask for Steam or Apple gift cards. One man would ask him "Why do you want 
steamed apples?".

-- 
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"My God, it's full of stars!"

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#148297

FromDaniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org>
Date2025-05-03 21:39 +1000
Message-ID<vv4v8k$3emts$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#148284
On 1/05/2025 4:50 am, Mark Lloyd wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 15:36:36 +0100, Woody wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
>> I had one of those a while back. Being a bit bored I decided to play
>> along. He wanted me to find the Windows key and I kept leading him along
>> showing I didn't have one. Eventually he said lets do it another way.
>> 'Open up the Google' he said. I acted daft saying what did he mean. He
>> asked if I knew what Google is to which I replied a browser. He said yes
>> so open it. I said I can't, I'm using Safari on an Apple.
>> Click, call gone.
> 
> I've been watching some scam-call videos on Youtube. These scammers often
> ask for Steam or Apple gift cards. One man would ask him "Why do you want
> steamed apples?".
> 
Stewed Apples .... Yumm ..... but Steamed Apples"?? ;-P
-- 
Daniel70

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#148304

FromMark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid>
Date2025-05-03 19:23 +0000
Message-ID<68166d14$0$14$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#148297
On Sat, 3 May 2025 21:39:00 +1000, Daniel70 wrote:

> On 1/05/2025 4:50 am, Mark Lloyd wrote:
>> On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 15:36:36 +0100, Woody wrote:
>> 
>> [snip]
>> 
>>> I had one of those a while back. Being a bit bored I decided to play
>>> along. He wanted me to find the Windows key and I kept leading him
>>> along showing I didn't have one. Eventually he said lets do it another
>>> way. 'Open up the Google' he said. I acted daft saying what did he
>>> mean. He asked if I knew what Google is to which I replied a browser.
>>> He said yes so open it. I said I can't, I'm using Safari on an Apple.
>>> Click, call gone.
>> 
>> I've been watching some scam-call videos on Youtube. These scammers
>> often ask for Steam or Apple gift cards. One man would ask him "Why do
>> you want steamed apples?".
>> 
> Stewed Apples .... Yumm ..... but Steamed Apples"?? ;-P

Apparently because its funny, and it takes up the scammer's time.

-- 
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"The foolish renounce this world and pursue an imaginary world to come."
-- Giordano Bruno (1548-1600), Italian philosopher

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#148250

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-04-29 20:09 +0200
Message-ID<07h7elxk22.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#148238
On 2025-04-29 16:03, Woody wrote:
> On Tue 29/04/2025 11:27, Daniel70 wrote:
>> On 29/04/2025 5:42 am, Mark Lloyd wrote:
>>>
>>> [snip]


>>>> Now-a-days, apart from the Spammers .... just about the only time I
>>>> actually use the Landline is when I've misplaced my mobile so I can 
>>>> give
>>>> it a call. ;-P
>>>
>>> Yes, I do use it that way.

Me too.

> 
> 
> The secret if you think it may be a spam call is to pick up the handset 
> and keep quiet. If it is a spam test call it will be dropped after about 
> 3-4 seconds. If you speak it will either play you a recorded message or 
> put you through to 'Kevin from Microsoft' usually in a very heavy Asian 
> accent.

I do a variant of this. I answer "dígame?", which in Spanish means "tell 
me?". This is instead of saying "yes?", which can be recorded by the 
scammers and use it as an answer to a contract. After that single word, 
I keep silent. Sometimes I hear the noise of the call centre room, but I 
still keep silent. Soon, they hang up.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#148278

FromDaniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org>
Date2025-05-01 00:02 +1000
Message-ID<vutah7$dvs1$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#148238
On 30/04/2025 12:03 am, Woody wrote:
> On Tue 29/04/2025 11:27, Daniel70 wrote:
>> On 29/04/2025 5:42 am, Mark Lloyd wrote:
>>> 
>>> [snip]
>>> 
>>>> When I moved into this house, just about all the phone calls I
>>>> got on the landline were from Spammers so I installed an
>>>> "Answerphone" on the Landline. That way, when that phone rang,
>>>> I could wait to see if it is a "Real" call or just Spammers.
>>> 
>>> If I'm close enough I look at the caller ID to see if its
>>> something reasonable.
>> 
>> Hey, like I typed my Landline phone is in the Bedroom. Just about
>> the only time I'm in the Bedroom, my mind is on totally different
>> things to "Answer the Phone"! ;-)
>> 
>>> Now most of the junk calls have the caller ID name set equal to
>>> the number.
>> 
>> Hmm! Not sure WHAT would be displayed on my LL phone.
>> 
>>> BTW, they almost never leave a message. I consider that as
>>> indicating a lack of confidence in what they're selling, as if
>>> they know that anybody who's had time to think about it would say
>>> no.
>> 
>> I figure it's probably an auto-dialer at the distant end, setting
>> up 'active' calls so when the 'Spammer/Operator' finishes the
>> current call they are on, there is someone on the line waiting to
>> be spammed (ME).
>> 
>> I've often wondered if, when my answer machine answers the call,
>> does it, possibly, put some signal on the line which the distant 
>> auto-dialer can detect and know it's being connected to an Answer 
>> machine .... so IT breaks the connection.
>> 
>> I doubt it .... but it's an interesting thought!! ;-P
>> 
>>> I do that on the cell phone too, although the lack of caller ID
>>> NAME is a serious disadvantage compared to the home phone.
>> 
>> On my mobile, if they are not in my 'phonebook' AND I'm not
>> expecting a call from somewhere unusual, I don't bother answering
>> it either. The way I figure it, if it is someone I NEED to talk to,
>> they'll probably/ hopefully SMS me instead.
>> 
>> P.S. I have deliberately disable my Mobile's MessageBank-thingee 
>> cause, as I figure it, if I have to phone in to get my Messages,
>> I'd be charged for that call as I'm on PAYG!!
>> 
>>>> Now-a-days, apart from the Spammers .... just about the only
>>>> time I actually use the Landline is when I've misplaced my
>>>> mobile so I can give it a call. ;-P
>>> 
>>> Yes, I do use it that way.
> 
> The secret if you think it may be a spam call is to pick up the
> handset and keep quiet.

In a related point, back when I did race into the Bedroom and answer the
Phone and found it to be a Spammer, I'd just put the phone down on the
Bedside table without hanging up.

The way I figured it .... if I just left the Spammer spruking until they
realised I wasn't listening I save someone else from getting spammed ...
at least for a little while!!

> If it is a spam test call it will be dropped after about 3-4 seconds.
> If you speak it will either play you a recorded message or put you
> through to 'Kevin from Microsoft' usually in a very heavy Asian 
> accent.
-- 
Daniel70

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#148245

FromDavid Woolley <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid>
Date2025-04-29 18:30 +0100
Message-ID<vur2cf$29gpt$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#148228
On 29/04/2025 11:27, Daniel70 wrote:
> I figure it's probably an auto-dialer at the distant end, setting up 
> 'active' calls so when the 'Spammer/Operator' finishes the current call 
> they are on, there is someone on the line waiting to be spammed (ME).

The technical name for this is predictive dialling.

> 
> I've often wondered if, when my answer machine answers the call, does 
> it, possibly, put some signal on the line which the distant auto-dialer 
> can detect and know it's being connected to an Answer machine .... so IT 
> breaks the connection.

Many use Asterisk, and the answering machine detection is fairly basic. 
It's done on duration and word count, mainly, where words are just 
periods of sound.  Live greetings tend to be very short, whereas 
answering machine ones are quite long. 
<https://docs.asterisk.org/Latest_API/API_Documentation/Dialplan_Applications/AMD/>

Some other systems may detect the beep, and I strongly suspect that 
answering after exactly 20 seconds (or maybe just after more than 20 
seconds) is also sometimes used for detection.

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#148247

FromMark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid>
Date2025-04-29 17:48 +0000
Message-ID<681110d5$0$13$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#148228
On Tue, 29 Apr 2025 20:27:57 +1000, Daniel70 wrote:

[snip]
 
> I figure it's probably an auto-dialer at the distant end, setting up
> 'active' calls so when the 'Spammer/Operator' finishes the current call
> they are on, there is someone on the line waiting to be spammed (ME).
> 
> I've often wondered if, when my answer machine answers the call, does
> it, possibly, put some signal on the line which the distant auto-dialer
> can detect and know it's being connected to an Answer machine .... so IT
> breaks the connection.

I often hear 5 beeps (like a busy signal) after scam calls (NEVER 
legitimate calls). There seems to be some interaction problem between the 
auto-dialer and my phone. Good thing, the built-in answering machine 
doesn't think that's a message.

> I doubt it .... but it's an interesting thought!! ;-P

The few I get where they actually do leave a message, they are often 
front-end truncated. That is, the first 2-3 seconds of the message don't 
get recorded, as if the auto-dialer is too stupid (more likely, doesn't 
care) to wait for the beep.

>> I do that on the cell phone too, although the lack of caller ID NAME is
>> a serious disadvantage compared to the home phone.
> 
> On my mobile, if they are not in my 'phonebook' AND I'm not expecting a
> call from somewhere unusual, I don't bother answering it either. The way
> I figure it, if it is someone I NEED to talk to, they'll
> probably/hopefully SMS me instead.

That's what I've been doing, considering the lack of help from caller ID 
showing the NAME.
 
> P.S. I have deliberately disable my Mobile's MessageBank-thingee cause,
> as I figure it, if I have to phone in to get my Messages, I'd be charged
> for that call as I'm on PAYG!!

I used to know someone who did that, for the same reason. Now most cell 
service around here is "unlimited talk and text".

[snip]

-- 
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

We provide a special tax-reducing savings account for very rich people.
-30% interest.

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#148298

FromDaniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org>
Date2025-05-03 21:44 +1000
Message-ID<vv4vj6$3f6ij$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#148247
On 30/04/2025 3:48 am, Mark Lloyd wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Apr 2025 20:27:57 +1000, Daniel70 wrote:
> 
> [snip]
>   
>> I figure it's probably an auto-dialer at the distant end, setting up
>> 'active' calls so when the 'Spammer/Operator' finishes the current call
>> they are on, there is someone on the line waiting to be spammed (ME).
>>
>> I've often wondered if, when my answer machine answers the call, does
>> it, possibly, put some signal on the line which the distant auto-dialer
>> can detect and know it's being connected to an Answer machine .... so IT
>> breaks the connection.
> 
> I often hear 5 beeps (like a busy signal) after scam calls (NEVER
> legitimate calls). There seems to be some interaction problem between the
> auto-dialer and my phone. Good thing, the built-in answering machine
> doesn't think that's a message.
> 
>> I doubt it .... but it's an interesting thought!! ;-P
> 
> The few I get where they actually do leave a message, they are often
> front-end truncated. That is, the first 2-3 seconds of the message don't
> get recorded, as if the auto-dialer is too stupid (more likely, doesn't
> care) to wait for the beep.
> 
>>> I do that on the cell phone too, although the lack of caller ID NAME is
>>> a serious disadvantage compared to the home phone.
>>
>> On my mobile, if they are not in my 'phonebook' AND I'm not expecting a
>> call from somewhere unusual, I don't bother answering it either. The way
>> I figure it, if it is someone I NEED to talk to, they'll
>> probably/hopefully SMS me instead.
> 
> That's what I've been doing, considering the lack of help from caller ID
> showing the NAME.
>   
>> P.S. I have deliberately disable my Mobile's MessageBank-thingee cause,
>> as I figure it, if I have to phone in to get my Messages, I'd be charged
>> for that call as I'm on PAYG!!
> 
> I used to know someone who did that, for the same reason. Now most cell
> service around here is "unlimited talk and text".
> 
> [snip]
> 
Yeah .... if you pay a fixed $xx.00 per month, I think they offer that 
here in Australia, too, but if you're not making anywhere near $xx.00 
per month phone calls you're losing money IMHO.
-- 
Daniel70

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#148226

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-04-29 11:57 +0200
Message-ID<mck6elxmlj.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#148208
On 2025-04-28 15:01, Daniel70 wrote:
> 
> Now-a-days, apart from the Spammers .... just about the only time I 
> actually use the Landline is when I've misplaced my mobile so I can give 
> it a call. 😜

I got one spam call yesterday. You know, I live in Spain, the entire 
country was suffering a power failure, yet I got one spam call!

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#148227

FromGraham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk>
Date2025-04-29 11:09 +0100
Message-ID<vuq8h8$1homp$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#148226
Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2025-04-28 15:01, Daniel70 wrote:
>>
>> Now-a-days, apart from the Spammers .... just about the only time I 
>> actually use the Landline is when I've misplaced my mobile so I can 
>> give it a call. 😜
> 
> I got one spam call yesterday. You know, I live in Spain, the entire 
> country was suffering a power failure, yet I got one spam call!
> 

At least the phone system works when there's a power failure!  Useful to 
know ...

-- 
Graham J

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#148230

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-04-29 12:36 +0200
Message-ID<anm6elxbpn.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#148227
On 2025-04-29 12:09, Graham J wrote:
> Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-04-28 15:01, Daniel70 wrote:
>>>
>>> Now-a-days, apart from the Spammers .... just about the only time I 
>>> actually use the Landline is when I've misplaced my mobile so I can 
>>> give it a call. 😜
>>
>> I got one spam call yesterday. You know, I live in Spain, the entire 
>> country was suffering a power failure, yet I got one spam call!
>>
> 
> At least the phone system works when there's a power failure!  Useful to 
> know ...

Mine did, but not everybody's.

Just heard from someone that people had to physically go to the office 
of one known brand of elevators to go and rescue some trapped people in 
this or that lift. Phone at that office was off.

On most places, the land line failed instantly, because the network is 
fibre and needs power at sites. Mine failed instantly, and it is on UPS. 
Mobile worked while towers had battery. It is possible that my tower was 
on the main exchange, so they had a big battery and a generator.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#148233

FromRichmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com>
Date2025-04-29 11:48 +0100
Message-ID<86ecxb1bxa.fsf@example.com>
In reply to#148230
"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> writes:

> On 2025-04-29 12:09, Graham J wrote:
>> Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> On 2025-04-28 15:01, Daniel70 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Now-a-days, apart from the Spammers .... just about the only time I
>>>> actually use the Landline is when I've misplaced my mobile so I can
>>>> give it a call. 😜
>>>
>>> I got one spam call yesterday. You know, I live in Spain, the entire
>>> country was suffering a power failure, yet I got one spam call!
>>>
>> At least the phone system works when there's a power failure! 
>> Useful to know ...
>
> Mine did, but not everybody's.
>
> Just heard from someone that people had to physically go to the office
> of one known brand of elevators to go and rescue some trapped people
> in this or that lift. Phone at that office was off.
>
> On most places, the land line failed instantly, because the network is
> fibre and needs power at sites. Mine failed instantly, and it is on
> UPS. Mobile worked while towers had battery. It is possible that my
> tower was on the main exchange, so they had a big battery and a
> generator.

Did analog and digital landlines fail equally? or maybe there are no
analog lines left in Spain.

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#148234

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-04-29 13:14 +0200
Message-ID<pso6elxctr.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#148233
On 2025-04-29 12:48, Richmond wrote:
> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> writes:
> 
>> On 2025-04-29 12:09, Graham J wrote:
>>> Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>> On 2025-04-28 15:01, Daniel70 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Now-a-days, apart from the Spammers .... just about the only time I
>>>>> actually use the Landline is when I've misplaced my mobile so I can
>>>>> give it a call. 😜
>>>>
>>>> I got one spam call yesterday. You know, I live in Spain, the entire
>>>> country was suffering a power failure, yet I got one spam call!
>>>>
>>> At least the phone system works when there's a power failure!
>>> Useful to know ...
>>
>> Mine did, but not everybody's.
>>
>> Just heard from someone that people had to physically go to the office
>> of one known brand of elevators to go and rescue some trapped people
>> in this or that lift. Phone at that office was off.
>>
>> On most places, the land line failed instantly, because the network is
>> fibre and needs power at sites. Mine failed instantly, and it is on
>> UPS. Mobile worked while towers had battery. It is possible that my
>> tower was on the main exchange, so they had a big battery and a
>> generator.
> 
> Did analog and digital landlines fail equally? or maybe there are no
> analog lines left in Spain.

There are no longer POT lines in Spain (copper pair), at least with the 
majority provider, Telefónica. It has switched to fibre network. At 
locations with no fibre, they use some radio system instead.

I don't know the exact situation with other providers, I haven't heard 
about them.

For example, the old network of the cable company ONO, which now belongs 
to Vodafone, is fibre to the block, then coax to the home. On apartment 
buildings, they see a copper pair getting to their phone from the 
basement. But there is a fibre coming to the building, so service is 
down if there is no electricity. I do not know if they have their own 
power supply coming from their main exchange.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#148299

FromDaniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org>
Date2025-05-03 21:54 +1000
Message-ID<vv505b$3fkjk$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#148234
On 29/04/2025 9:14 pm, Carlos E.R. wrote:

<Snip>

> For example, the old network of the cable company ONO, which now belongs 
> to Vodafone, is fibre to the block, then coax to the home. On apartment 
> buildings, they see a copper pair getting to their phone from the 
> basement. But there is a fibre coming to the building, so service is 
> down if there is no electricity. I do not know if they have their own 
> power supply coming from their main exchange.
> 
Similar in Australia. We used to have twisted pair cable all over the 
place but, back in about 2010, the Federal Government set up the 
National Broadband Network (NBN) which would have Optical Fibre to the 
box in the street and then twisted pair to the premises .... unless the 
premises owner (i.e. Businesses) pays for Fibre.

Some Rural subscribers go Satellite Phone service.
-- 
Daniel70

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#148229

FromDaniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org>
Date2025-04-29 20:29 +1000
Message-ID<vuq9n3$1j1v8$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#148226
On 29/04/2025 7:57 pm, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2025-04-28 15:01, Daniel70 wrote:
>>
>> Now-a-days, apart from the Spammers .... just about the only time I 
>> actually use the Landline is when I've misplaced my mobile so I can 
>> give it a call. 😜
> 
> I got one spam call yesterday. You know, I live in Spain, the entire 
> country was suffering a power failure, yet I got one spam call!
> 
Well, with Power out, I guess you weren't doing anything else .... so, 
maybe, your spammer was wanting to give you something to do. '-P
-- 
Daniel70

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#148231

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-04-29 12:39 +0200
Message-ID<trm6elxbpn.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#148229
On 2025-04-29 12:29, Daniel70 wrote:
> On 29/04/2025 7:57 pm, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-04-28 15:01, Daniel70 wrote:
>>>
>>> Now-a-days, apart from the Spammers .... just about the only time I 
>>> actually use the Landline is when I've misplaced my mobile so I can 
>>> give it a call. 😜
>>
>> I got one spam call yesterday. You know, I live in Spain, the entire 
>> country was suffering a power failure, yet I got one spam call!
>>
> Well, with Power out, I guess you weren't doing anything else .... so, 
> maybe, your spammer was wanting to give you something to do. '-P

I was bored. I answered, but got nobody saying anything, so I had to 
hang down.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#148277

FromFrank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Date2025-04-30 13:36 +0000
Message-ID<vutg1m.svo.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
In reply to#148208
Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
[...]
> Now-a-days, apart from the Spammers .... just about the only time I 
> actually use the Landline is when I've misplaced my mobile so I can give 
> it a call. ;-P

  That' SO (before-)last decade! :-) That's what my watch is for.

  Watch has 'Find Phone'. Laptop has 'Find Phone'. Google TV Streamer
has 'Find Remote'.

  Google TV Streamer is cable connected to the TV, so can not get lost.
Laptop can get lost, but not so easily.

  Mother's Day is coming up, but she will *not* get a 'Find Hubby'
gadget!

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#148300

FromDaniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org>
Date2025-05-03 21:56 +1000
Message-ID<vv508j$3fkjk$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#148277
On 30/04/2025 11:36 pm, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
> [...]
>> Now-a-days, apart from the Spammers .... just about the only time I
>> actually use the Landline is when I've misplaced my mobile so I can give
>> it a call. ;-P
> 
>    That' SO (before-)last decade! :-) That's what my watch is for.
> 
>    Watch has 'Find Phone'. Laptop has 'Find Phone'. Google TV Streamer
> has 'Find Remote'.
> 
>    Google TV Streamer is cable connected to the TV, so can not get lost.
> Laptop can get lost, but not so easily.
> 
>    Mother's Day is coming up, but she will *not* get a 'Find Hubby'
> gadget!
> 
Oh, you Hi-Tech person, You!!
-- 
Daniel70

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#148612

FromJMB99 <mb@nospam.net>
Date2025-05-24 10:17 +0100
Message-ID<100s2s6$kemf$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#148208
Odd one this morning, phone rings with number withheld.

When I answered, they asked for me by my name.

I asked who was calling.

Someone with a local accent replied it was <a forename and surname> from 
<a Scottish bank>

I asked why he was calling me and he just hung up.


Unusual for them to claim to be calling from a named bank, it is usually 
'your bank' or 'bank security'

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#148613

FromMark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid>
Date2025-05-24 17:05 +0000
Message-ID<6831fc4b$1$22$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#148612
On Sat, 24 May 2025 10:17:57 +0100, JMB99 wrote:

> Odd one this morning, phone rings with number withheld.

[snip]

I got another one of those calls about "Comcast discounts". I suppose they 
don't actually care that Comcast isn't available here.

The message was also inconsistent, including both of:

"Your discount has expired."
"You can stop it from expiring."

-- 
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"Why are they called apartments, when they're all stuck together?"

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