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Re: OT: spam phone calls

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First post2025-03-21 13:51 +0100
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  Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-21 13:51 +0100
    Re: OT: spam phone calls Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-21 11:23 -0400
      Re: OT: spam phone calls micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-21 12:32 -0400
        Re: OT: spam phone calls AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-03-21 16:46 +0000
        Re: OT: spam phone calls Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-21 18:52 +0000
          Re: OT: spam phone calls micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-03 08:00 -0400
            Re: OT: spam phone calls Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-03 12:14 +0000
              Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-03 14:22 +0200
                Re: OT: spam phone calls micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-07-01 09:17 -0400
              Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-02 19:53 +1000
                Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-02 12:35 +0200
                  Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-02 22:09 +1000
                    Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-02 20:20 +0200
                      Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-03 19:28 +1000
                        Re: OT: spam phone calls David Woolley <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> - 2025-07-03 12:39 +0100
                Re: OT: spam phone calls Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-07-02 14:40 +0000
                Re: OT: spam phone calls JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2025-07-03 09:05 +0100
                  Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-03 11:33 +0200
                    Re: OT: spam phone calls JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2025-07-03 12:18 +0100
                      Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-03 13:32 +0200
                        Re: OT: spam phone calls NY <me@privacy.net> - 2025-07-03 22:07 +0100
                          Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-04 03:17 +0200
                          Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-07-05 19:03 +0000
                            Re: OT: spam phone calls Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-07-05 21:14 +0000
                              Re: OT: spam phone calls JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2025-07-06 13:21 +0100
                                Re: OT: spam phone calls Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2025-07-06 13:21 +0000
                                Re: OT: spam phone calls Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-07-06 14:03 +0000
                            Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-06 18:56 +1000
                              Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-06 19:49 +1000
                              Re: OT: spam phone calls tony sayer <tony@bancom.co.uk> - 2025-07-06 19:35 +0100
                                Re: OT: spam phone calls James Heaton <heatonandmoore@gmail.com> - 2025-07-06 19:57 +0100
                            Re: OT: spam phone calls JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2025-07-06 13:18 +0100
                              Re: OT: spam phone calls Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-07-06 14:04 +0000
                              Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-07 19:03 +1000
                                Re: OT: spam phone calls "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-07 16:38 +0100
                                  Re: OT: spam phone calls Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-07-07 17:20 +0100
                                    OT: floppies (was: Re: OT: spam phone calls) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-07 17:43 +0100
                      Re: OT: spam phone calls David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2025-07-03 16:26 +0100
                        Tap to pay [Was: Re: OT: spam phone calls] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-03 20:04 +0200
                        Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-04 19:35 +1000
                          Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-04 11:46 +0200
                            Re: OT: spam phone calls Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2025-07-04 11:12 +0000
                              Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-04 13:24 +0200
                                Re: OT: spam phone calls "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-05 01:32 +0100
                                  Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-05 20:15 +1000
                                  Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-05 19:55 +0200
                  Re: OT: spam phone calls Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2025-07-03 11:20 +0100
                    Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-03 12:43 +0200
                      Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-03 23:00 +1000
                    Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-03 20:50 +1000
                    Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-07-03 19:29 +0000
                      Re: OT: spam phone calls "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-03 20:55 +0100
                        Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-07-05 19:13 +0000
                      Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-03 22:40 +0200
                        Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-07-05 19:18 +0000
                    Re: OT: spam phone calls NY <me@privacy.net> - 2025-07-03 22:13 +0100
            Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-03 14:13 +0200
        Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-22 14:53 +0100
          Re: OT: spam phone calls Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-22 12:10 -0400
            Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-03-22 17:06 +0000
              Re: OT: spam phone calls Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-22 13:24 -0400
                Re: OT: spam phone calls Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-22 22:43 +0100
              Re: OT: spam phone calls David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2025-03-22 20:36 +0000
                Re: OT: spam phone calls micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-03 08:27 -0400
            Re: OT: spam phone calls micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-03 08:22 -0400
          Re: OT: spam phone calls micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-03 08:07 -0400
            Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-03 14:19 +0200
              Re: OT: spam phone calls micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-03 09:14 -0400
                Re: OT: spam phone calls Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-04-03 18:10 +0200
          Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-28 23:01 +1000
            Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-28 19:42 +0000
              Re: OT: spam phone calls JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2025-04-28 21:04 +0100
                Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-29 17:37 +0000
                  Re: OT: spam phone calls Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-04-29 20:18 +0200
                    Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 20:54 +0200
                      Re: OT: spam phone calls Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-04-29 21:19 +0200
                        Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-30 19:06 +0000
                          Re: OT: spam phone calls Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-04-30 22:04 +0200
                            Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-05-01 16:54 +0000
                              Re: OT: spam phone calls Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-05-01 19:01 +0200
                                Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-03 21:30 +1000
                              Re: OT: spam phone calls Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-05-01 18:06 +0000
                          Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-03 21:26 +1000
                            Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-03 14:11 +0200
                            Re: OT: spam phone calls Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2025-05-03 15:08 +0100
                              Re: OT: spam phone calls Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-03 15:04 -0400
                                Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-03 23:41 +0200
                            Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-05-03 19:26 +0000
                      Re: OT: spam phone calls Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-04-30 06:36 +0200
                        Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-30 09:04 +0200
                        Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-30 19:01 +0000
                          Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-03 21:34 +1000
                    Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-30 18:53 +0000
              Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-29 20:27 +1000
                Re: OT: spam phone calls Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2025-04-29 15:03 +0100
                  Re: OT: spam phone calls Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2025-04-29 16:21 +0100
                  Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-29 17:58 +0000
                    Re: OT: spam phone calls JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2025-04-30 10:13 +0100
                    Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-01 00:07 +1000
                      Re: OT: spam phone calls Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2025-04-30 15:36 +0100
                        Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-30 18:50 +0000
                          Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-03 21:39 +1000
                            Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-05-03 19:23 +0000
                  Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 20:09 +0200
                  Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-01 00:02 +1000
                Re: OT: spam phone calls David Woolley <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> - 2025-04-29 18:30 +0100
                Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-29 17:48 +0000
                  Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-03 21:44 +1000
            Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 11:57 +0200
              Re: OT: spam phone calls Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-04-29 11:09 +0100
                Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 12:36 +0200
                  Re: OT: spam phone calls Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-04-29 11:48 +0100
                    Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 13:14 +0200
                      Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-03 21:54 +1000
              Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-29 20:29 +1000
                Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 12:39 +0200
            Re: OT: spam phone calls Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-30 13:36 +0000
              Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-03 21:56 +1000
            Re: OT: spam phone calls JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2025-05-24 10:17 +0100
              Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-05-24 17:05 +0000
    Re: OT: spam phone calls AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-03-21 16:10 +0000
      Re: OT: spam phone calls micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-21 12:34 -0400
        Re: OT: spam phone calls AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-03-21 16:52 +0000
      Re: OT: spam phone calls Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-21 16:48 +0000
        Re: OT: spam phone calls AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-03-21 17:11 +0000
    Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-03-21 18:11 +0000
      Re: OT: spam phone calls micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-03 08:28 -0400
        Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-03 14:37 +0200
    Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-08 21:55 +1000
      Re: OT: spam phone calls "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-04-08 08:10 -0400
        Re: OT: spam phone calls Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2025-04-08 13:52 +0100
          Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-08 20:33 +0000
            Re: OT: spam phone calls Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2025-04-09 11:45 +0100
              Re: OT: spam phone calls JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2025-04-10 09:16 +0100
                Re: OT: spam phone calls Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2025-04-10 09:33 +0100
                  Re: OT: spam phone calls JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2025-04-10 14:40 +0100
                    Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-29 21:23 +1000
                  Re: OT: spam phone calls Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2025-04-28 19:13 +0100
                    Re: OT: spam phone calls AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-04-28 18:59 +0000
                      Re: OT: spam phone calls Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-29 18:37 +0000
                        Browser lockup and other various subjects... AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-04-29 21:49 +0000
                          Re: Browser lockup and other various subjects... Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-30 14:43 +0000
                            Re: Browser lockup and other various subjects... AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-04-30 16:39 +0000
                              Re: Browser lockup and other various subjects... Siard <xx@xx.invalid> - 2025-04-30 23:24 +0200
                                Re: Browser lockup and other various subjects... AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-04-30 22:00 +0000
                    Re: OT: spam phone calls David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2025-04-28 21:19 +0100
                    Re: OT: spam phone calls knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-28 16:51 -0400
                      Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 12:42 +0200
                        Re: OT: spam phone calls Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> - 2025-04-29 11:35 +0000
                          Re: OT: spam phone calls Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-04-29 15:35 +0100
                            Re: OT: spam phone calls Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> - 2025-04-29 15:06 +0000
                              Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 20:15 +0200
                          Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 20:17 +0200
                        Re: OT: spam phone calls JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2025-04-29 12:57 +0100
        Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-08 20:23 +0000
        Re: OT: spam phone calls bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> - 2025-04-08 17:06 -0400
      Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-08 18:55 +0000
        Re: OT: spam phone calls David Woolley <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> - 2025-04-09 14:16 +0100
        Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-13 22:52 +1000
          Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-05-13 17:04 +0000
            Re: OT: spam phone calls AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-05-13 18:05 +0000
              Re: OT: spam phone calls Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-05-13 19:33 +0100
      Re: OT: spam phone calls Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-09 12:21 +0200
        Re: OT: spam phone calls ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-04-09 19:54 +0000
          Re: OT: spam phone calls Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-09 17:07 -0500
          Re: OT: spam phone calls JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2025-04-10 09:18 +0100
            Re: OT: spam phone calls Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2025-04-28 19:10 +0100
        Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-13 22:55 +1000

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#149588

FromNY <me@privacy.net>
Date2025-07-03 22:07 +0100
Message-ID<1046re9$bvip$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#149557
On 03/07/2025 12:32, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2025-07-03 13:18, JMB99 wrote:
>> My phone remains in a zipped pocket and need unlocking to be used so 
>> takes longer to get into use.
> 
> Certainly, I keep it locked, in a shoulder bag when I am out, or in a 
> table when I am in. It is summer, so can't be in a jacket pocket.

My phone, like my car/house keys, remains in my trouser pocket whenever 
I'm not using it or charging it. If I took my phone or my keys out and 
left them on a random table, I'd spend ages remembering where I'd left 
them and I'd be too much at risk of going out without them.

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#149595

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-07-04 03:17 +0200
Message-ID<3nmjjlxsrt.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#149588
On 2025-07-03 23:07, NY wrote:
> On 03/07/2025 12:32, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-07-03 13:18, JMB99 wrote:
>>> My phone remains in a zipped pocket and need unlocking to be used so 
>>> takes longer to get into use.
>>
>> Certainly, I keep it locked, in a shoulder bag when I am out, or in a 
>> table when I am in. It is summer, so can't be in a jacket pocket.
> 
> My phone, like my car/house keys, remains in my trouser pocket whenever 
> I'm not using it or charging it. If I took my phone or my keys out and 
> left them on a random table, I'd spend ages remembering where I'd left 
> them and I'd be too much at risk of going out without them.

Use another phone to ring it :-D

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#149633

FromMark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid>
Date2025-07-05 19:03 +0000
Message-ID<6869771f$0$19$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#149588
On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 22:07:21 +0100, NY wrote:

> On 03/07/2025 12:32, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-07-03 13:18, JMB99 wrote:
>>> My phone remains in a zipped pocket and need unlocking to be used so
>>> takes longer to get into use.
>> 
>> Certainly, I keep it locked, in a shoulder bag when I am out, or in a
>> table when I am in. It is summer, so can't be in a jacket pocket.
> 
> My phone, like my car/house keys, remains in my trouser pocket whenever
> I'm not using it or charging it. If I took my phone or my keys out and
> left them on a random table, I'd spend ages remembering where I'd left
> them and I'd be too much at risk of going out without them.

My rule is that I can take them out of the pocket*, but NEVER set them 
down in a place that isn't mine (house or car).

* - when I first started carrying these things, I put them in the obvious 
place, a FRONT pocket. I have never put anything other than a few papers 
in a back pocket.

-- 
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburger." [Abbie Hoffman]

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#149636

FromBob Eager <news0009@eager.cx>
Date2025-07-05 21:14 +0000
Message-ID<mctissFgaflU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#149633
On Sat, 05 Jul 2025 19:03:59 +0000, Mark Lloyd wrote:

> My rule is that I can take them out of the pocket*, but NEVER set them
> down in a place that isn't mine (house or car).
> 
> * - when I first started carrying these things, I put them in the
> obvious place, a FRONT pocket. I have never put anything other than a
> few papers in a back pocket.

Same here, except that it's a zipped front pocket!

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#149646

FromJMB99 <mb@nospam.net>
Date2025-07-06 13:21 +0100
Message-ID<104dpos$266jp$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#149636
On 05/07/2025 22:14, Bob Eager wrote:
> My rule is that I can take them out of the pocket*, but NEVER set them
> down in a place that isn't mine (house or car).



Many items have a secure anchor point like the ones on laptops.

Never understood why one could not be designed into mobile phones?

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#149647

FromTweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com>
Date2025-07-06 13:21 +0000
Message-ID<104dt8u$276v0$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#149646
JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> wrote:
> On 05/07/2025 22:14, Bob Eager wrote:
>> My rule is that I can take them out of the pocket*, but NEVER set them
>> down in a place that isn't mine (house or car).
> 
> 
> 
> Many items have a secure anchor point like the ones on laptops.
> 
> Never understood why one could not be designed into mobile phones?
> 
> 
You can get phone cases with an anchor loop. When in London I attach mine
to my belt with a chain. It won’t stop every theft, but like door locks, it
goes a long way to achieving that aim.

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#149649

FromBob Eager <news0009@eager.cx>
Date2025-07-06 14:03 +0000
Message-ID<mcve1rFgaflU5@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#149646
On Sun, 06 Jul 2025 13:21:48 +0100, JMB99 wrote:

> On 05/07/2025 22:14, Bob Eager wrote:
>> My rule is that I can take them out of the pocket*, but NEVER set them
>> down in a place that isn't mine (house or car).
> 
> 
> 
> Many items have a secure anchor point like the ones on laptops.
> 
> Never understood why one could not be designed into mobile phones?

I didn't write that.

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#149638

FromDaniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org>
Date2025-07-06 18:56 +1000
Message-ID<104ddo8$22nfv$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#149633
On 6/07/2025 5:03 am, Mark Lloyd wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 22:07:21 +0100, NY wrote:
> 
>> On 03/07/2025 12:32, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> On 2025-07-03 13:18, JMB99 wrote:
>>>> My phone remains in a zipped pocket and need unlocking to be used so
>>>> takes longer to get into use.
>>>
>>> Certainly, I keep it locked, in a shoulder bag when I am out, or in a
>>> table when I am in. It is summer, so can't be in a jacket pocket.
>>
>> My phone, like my car/house keys, remains in my trouser pocket whenever
>> I'm not using it or charging it. If I took my phone or my keys out and
>> left them on a random table, I'd spend ages remembering where I'd left
>> them and I'd be too much at risk of going out without them.
> 
> My rule is that I can take them out of the pocket*, but NEVER set them
> down in a place that isn't mine (house or car).

When he was visiting people and if there was something that he HAD to 
take home with him, he would put his car keys next to the object so he 
couldn't leave without being reminded about the object! ;-P
-- 
Daniel70

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#149639

FromDaniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org>
Date2025-07-06 19:49 +1000
Message-ID<104dgrr$23eb9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#149638
On 6/07/2025 6:56 pm, Daniel70 wrote:
> On 6/07/2025 5:03 am, Mark Lloyd wrote:
>> On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 22:07:21 +0100, NY wrote:
>>
>>> On 03/07/2025 12:32, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>> On 2025-07-03 13:18, JMB99 wrote:
>>>>> My phone remains in a zipped pocket and need unlocking to be used so
>>>>> takes longer to get into use.
>>>>
>>>> Certainly, I keep it locked, in a shoulder bag when I am out, or in a
>>>> table when I am in. It is summer, so can't be in a jacket pocket.
>>>
>>> My phone, like my car/house keys, remains in my trouser pocket whenever
>>> I'm not using it or charging it. If I took my phone or my keys out and
>>> left them on a random table, I'd spend ages remembering where I'd left
>>> them and I'd be too much at risk of going out without them.
>>
>> My rule is that I can take them out of the pocket*, but NEVER set them
>> down in a place that isn't mine (house or car).
> 
> When he was visiting people and if there was something that he HAD to 
> take home with him, he would put his car keys next to the object so he 
> couldn't leave without being reminded about the object! ;-P

Doh!! .... and the "he" I was referring to was my father!! '-(
-- 
Daniel70

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#149655

Fromtony sayer <tony@bancom.co.uk>
Date2025-07-06 19:35 +0100
Message-ID<9iucmUArHsaoFwuC@bancom.co.uk>
In reply to#149638
In article <104ddo8$22nfv$1@dont-email.me>, Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-
september.org> scribeth thus
>On 6/07/2025 5:03 am, Mark Lloyd wrote:
>> On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 22:07:21 +0100, NY wrote:
>> 
>>> On 03/07/2025 12:32, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>> On 2025-07-03 13:18, JMB99 wrote:
>>>>> My phone remains in a zipped pocket and need unlocking to be used so
>>>>> takes longer to get into use.
>>>>
>>>> Certainly, I keep it locked, in a shoulder bag when I am out, or in a
>>>> table when I am in. It is summer, so can't be in a jacket pocket.
>>>
>>> My phone, like my car/house keys, remains in my trouser pocket whenever
>>> I'm not using it or charging it. If I took my phone or my keys out and
>>> left them on a random table, I'd spend ages remembering where I'd left
>>> them and I'd be too much at risk of going out without them.
>> 
>> My rule is that I can take them out of the pocket*, but NEVER set them
>> down in a place that isn't mine (house or car).
>

>When he was visiting people and if there was something that he HAD to 
>take home with him, he would put his car keys next to the object so he 
>couldn't leave without being reminded about the object! ;-P

Been doing that very thing for years whilst working away on site!..
-- 
Tony Sayer


Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. 

Give him a keyboard, and he will reveal himself.

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#149656

FromJames Heaton <heatonandmoore@gmail.com>
Date2025-07-06 19:57 +0100
Message-ID<104egv7$2cjkg$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#149655
On 06/07/2025 19:35, tony sayer wrote:
> In article <104ddo8$22nfv$1@dont-email.me>, Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-
> september.org> scribeth thus
>> On 6/07/2025 5:03 am, Mark Lloyd wrote:
>>> On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 22:07:21 +0100, NY wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 03/07/2025 12:32, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-07-03 13:18, JMB99 wrote:
>>>>>> My phone remains in a zipped pocket and need unlocking to be used so
>>>>>> takes longer to get into use.
>>>>>
>>>>> Certainly, I keep it locked, in a shoulder bag when I am out, or in a
>>>>> table when I am in. It is summer, so can't be in a jacket pocket.
>>>>
>>>> My phone, like my car/house keys, remains in my trouser pocket whenever
>>>> I'm not using it or charging it. If I took my phone or my keys out and
>>>> left them on a random table, I'd spend ages remembering where I'd left
>>>> them and I'd be too much at risk of going out without them.
>>>
>>> My rule is that I can take them out of the pocket*, but NEVER set them
>>> down in a place that isn't mine (house or car).
>>
> 
>> When he was visiting people and if there was something that he HAD to
>> take home with him, he would put his car keys next to the object so he
>> couldn't leave without being reminded about the object! ;-P
> 
> Been doing that very thing for years whilst working away on site!..

Tried this with an elderly relative who was prone to leaving his phone 
in the care home he was visiting.

Worked fine for a couple of days, until the evening we had an irate 
phone call from him.  He'd gone back to the car with neither phone nor 
keys... and had to go all the way back!

James

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#149645

FromJMB99 <mb@nospam.net>
Date2025-07-06 13:18 +0100
Message-ID<104dpje$266jp$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#149633
On 05/07/2025 20:03, Mark Lloyd wrote:
> Certainly, I keep it locked, in a shoulder bag when I am out, or in a
> table when I am in. It is summer, so can't be in a jacket pocket.


I EMailed Rohan recently complaining about their shirt pockets.  There 
used to be two on most shirts and they were deep enough to take a modern 
mobile phone completely - it could be then made more secure with a zip 
fastener on the pocket on a flap that was held by a button.

Their more recent shirts are like most other ones on sale with a small 
pocket which will not take a mobile phone completely so danger of it 
falling out if you bend over.

I would never put anything of any value in a rear trouser pocket.

Most of my jackets and some of my shirts have an internal pocket secured 
by a zip.  I tend to put the phone there.

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#149650

FromBob Eager <news0009@eager.cx>
Date2025-07-06 14:04 +0000
Message-ID<mcve3nFgaflU6@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#149645
On Sun, 06 Jul 2025 13:18:54 +0100, JMB99 wrote:

> On 05/07/2025 20:03, Mark Lloyd wrote:
>> Certainly, I keep it locked, in a shoulder bag when I am out, or in a
>> table when I am in. It is summer, so can't be in a jacket pocket.
> 
> 
> I EMailed Rohan recently complaining about their shirt pockets.  There
> used to be two on most shirts and they were deep enough to take a modern
> mobile phone completely - it could be then made more secure with a zip
> fastener on the pocket on a flap that was held by a button.
> 
> Their more recent shirts are like most other ones on sale with a small
> pocket which will not take a mobile phone completely so danger of it
> falling out if you bend over.

I wear Rohan Bags, virtually always. The front pockets (with zips) work 
well.

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#149660

FromDaniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org>
Date2025-07-07 19:03 +1000
Message-ID<104g2g9$2rdh9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#149645
On 6/07/2025 10:18 pm, JMB99 wrote:
> On 05/07/2025 20:03, Mark Lloyd wrote:
>> Certainly, I keep it locked, in a shoulder bag when I am out, or in a
>> table when I am in. It is summer, so can't be in a jacket pocket.
> 
> I EMailed Rohan recently complaining about their shirt pockets.

"shirt pockets" .... supposedly responsible for 3.5inch 'Floppies' being 
the size they are/were!!
-- 
Daniel70

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#149674

From"J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk>
Date2025-07-07 16:38 +0100
Message-ID<104gpm5$2v8ff$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#149660
On 2025/7/7 10:3:5, Daniel70 wrote:
> On 6/07/2025 10:18 pm, JMB99 wrote:
>> On 05/07/2025 20:03, Mark Lloyd wrote:
>>> Certainly, I keep it locked, in a shoulder bag when I am out, or in a
>>> table when I am in. It is summer, so can't be in a jacket pocket.
>>
>> I EMailed Rohan recently complaining about their shirt pockets.
> 
> "shirt pockets" .... supposedly responsible for 3.5inch 'Floppies' being 
> the size they are/were!!

Hmm. There was also a slightly different size/format; 3" I think it was. 
My Oric Atmos used those, but it wasn't the only one - some other maker 
(I think it might have been Amstrad (for their word-processor, not the 
664 games machine) did too.
-- 
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

We'd agreed to overlook each others' families and everything, and get 
married" (The Trouble with Harry)

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#149675

FromJava Jive <java@evij.com.invalid>
Date2025-07-07 17:20 +0100
Message-ID<104gs4o$30gcq$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#149674
On 2025-07-07 16:38, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> On 2025/7/7 10:3:5, Daniel70 wrote:
>> On 6/07/2025 10:18 pm, JMB99 wrote:
>>> On 05/07/2025 20:03, Mark Lloyd wrote:
>>>> Certainly, I keep it locked, in a shoulder bag when I am out, or in a
>>>> table when I am in. It is summer, so can't be in a jacket pocket.
>>>
>>> I EMailed Rohan recently complaining about their shirt pockets.
>>
>> "shirt pockets" .... supposedly responsible for 3.5inch 'Floppies' 
>> being the size they are/were!!
> 
> Hmm. There was also a slightly different size/format; 3" I think it was. 
> My Oric Atmos used those, but it wasn't the only one - some other maker 
> (I think it might have been Amstrad (for their word-processor, not the 
> 664 games machine) did too.

For their CPC664/6128 computers *AND* their word-processors  -  IMS, the 
latter's electronic design was developed from that of the former, so 
they were very similar underneath the casing.

However, this gave a problem when upgrading to a PC: "How do I transfer 
my Amstrad data to my PC?", the answer being: "With great difficulty!"

You could buy software to drive a parallel cable connection, but from 
memory it wasn't cheap, so I devised a special dual format for an 
external 5" floppy drive  -  the format appeared as a (slightly modified 
from default, but perfectly valid) CP/M format to the CPC6128, and the 
entire CP/M disk contents appeared as one large file to the PC.  Then I 
wrote a C-program to read the large file as a virtual CP/M format and 
save the disk contents as the original individual files to my PC's HD. 
Thank f*k we don't have to p*ss around like that any more!

-- 

Fake news kills!

I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website: 
www.macfh.co.uk

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#149676 — OT: floppies (was: Re: OT: spam phone calls)

From"J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk>
Date2025-07-07 17:43 +0100
SubjectOT: floppies (was: Re: OT: spam phone calls)
Message-ID<104gteo$2v8ff$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#149675
On 2025/7/7 17:20:37, Java Jive wrote:
> On 2025-07-07 16:38, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>> On 2025/7/7 10:3:5, Daniel70 wrote:

[]

>>> "shirt pockets" .... supposedly responsible for 3.5inch 'Floppies' 
>>> being the size they are/were!!
>>
>> Hmm. There was also a slightly different size/format; 3" I think it 
>> was. My Oric Atmos used those, but it wasn't the only one - some other 
>> maker (I think it might have been Amstrad (for their word-processor, 
>> not the 664 games machine) did too.
> 
> For their CPC664/6128 computers *AND* their word-processors  -  IMS, the 
> latter's electronic design was developed from that of the former, so 
> they were very similar underneath the casing.

Oh. I thought the word-processor (one or two drives _in the monitor_) 
slightly preceded the general-purpose home computer (probably mostly 
used for games) - which was initially the 464, with a built-in cassette 
deck with the 664 having a disc drive instead. That _might_ have used 
the 3" floppies; I had thought it used 3½", but it was a Long Time Ago 
(and I never had one).>
> However, this gave a problem when upgrading to a PC: "How do I transfer 
> my Amstrad data to my PC?", the answer being: "With great difficulty!"

The initial difficulty being where to get an external 3" (as opposed to 
3½") drive; I don't think I ever saw one. (Well, they _might_ have been 
available for the BBC series, though they mostly used 5¼", and 3½" when 
they got smaller).>
> You could buy software to drive a parallel cable connection, but from 
> memory it wasn't cheap, so I devised a special dual format for an 
> external 5" floppy drive  -  the format appeared as a (slightly modified 
> from default, but perfectly valid) CP/M format to the CPC6128, and the 
> entire CP/M disk contents appeared as one large file to the PC.  Then I 
> wrote a C-program to read the large file as a virtual CP/M format and 
> save the disk contents as the original individual files to my PC's HD. 
> Thank f*k we don't have to p*ss around like that any more!
> 
Ah, happy days! Yes, glad don't have to mess with varying numbers of 
sectors per track, hard-sectored (multiple holes!) 5¼" floppies, … all 
those different home computers. (Even the cassette formats were mostly 
incompatible - though do you remember basicode, via Barry Norman and the 
Chip Shop!)
-- 
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

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#149568

FromDavid Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid>
Date2025-07-03 16:26 +0100
Message-ID<10467el$7nk9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#149556
On 03/07/2025 12:18, JMB99 wrote:
> On 03/07/2025 10:33, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> It is actually faster than fetching the card from the wallet.
> 
> 
> I presume you are one of those who walks around with phone in hand all 
> the time?
> 
> My phone remains in a zipped pocket and need unlocking to be used so 
> takes longer to get into use.
> 
> 
Not significantly if its a finger press. Point the locked phone at the 
NfC reader, it asks to be unlocked, touch the fingerprint reader, to 
unlock and tap again...

.. for me much simpler than trying to ease a card out of the wallet 
where it invariably jams, which I have to do as there are several cards 
in there. In most cases I will have also used my phone because it has my 
loyalty card stored in it as well....

Dave

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#149576 — Tap to pay [Was: Re: OT: spam phone calls]

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-07-03 20:04 +0200
SubjectTap to pay [Was: Re: OT: spam phone calls]
Message-ID<p9tijlx3h.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#149568
On 2025-07-03 17:26, David Wade wrote:
> On 03/07/2025 12:18, JMB99 wrote:
>> On 03/07/2025 10:33, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> It is actually faster than fetching the card from the wallet.
>>
>>
>> I presume you are one of those who walks around with phone in hand all 
>> the time?
>>
>> My phone remains in a zipped pocket and need unlocking to be used so 
>> takes longer to get into use.
>>
>>
> Not significantly if its a finger press. Point the locked phone at the 
> NfC reader, it asks to be unlocked, touch the fingerprint reader, to 
> unlock and tap again...

I have to tap to open the phone with my fingerprint, then open the 
wallet application. One of the bank cards is selected by default, or I 
can choose one. Then, just move the phone to the card reader thingie.

I suppose details may vary depending on what wallet app you use; I use 
the one by Google because my bank recommended it, and it is really easy 
to use. But in the past I used my bank application, and that was a 
nuisance, because I had to open that app with the bank id/pass. /That/ 
was slow. So I tried once or twice and reverted to the plastic card.

> 
> .. for me much simpler than trying to ease a card out of the wallet 
> where it invariably jams, which I have to do as there are several cards 
> in there. In most cases I will have also used my phone because it has my 
> loyalty card stored in it as well....

Exactly my case.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#149600

FromDaniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org>
Date2025-07-04 19:35 +1000
Message-ID<1048794$oj7j$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#149568
On 4/07/2025 1:26 am, David Wade wrote:

<Snip>

> .. for me much simpler than trying to ease a card out of the wallet 
> where it invariably jams, which I have to do as there are several cards 
> in there. In most cases I will have also used my phone because it has my 
> loyalty card stored in it as well....
> 
> Dave
> 
.... and, in a related manner, in about 2000, to pay for my Chicken 
Dinner, I went to hand my Credit Card to the Staff Member .... and, in 
doing so, passed the Card over the Card Reader machine and BEEB, Job 
Done!! First I knew of THAT ability!!
-- 
Daniel70

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