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Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones.

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From Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android, misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Subject Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones.
Date Thu, 27 Mar 2025 10:32:09 +0100
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Jörg Lorenz, 2025-03-26 15:36:

> On 26.03.25 14:10, Arno Welzel wrote:
>> Jörg Lorenz, 2025-03-24 21:40:
>>
>>> On 24.03.25 14:31, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>> I don't see the link. You said "RCS is forbidden as well", which is 
>>>> different of "not supported".
>>>
>>> I repeat it for you and Arlen: Nobody needs RCS and in particular nobody
>>> wants it. It is an inferior and insecure service. Full stop.
>>
>> E-Mail is also insecure and still used world wide nevertheless.
> 
> Asymmetric encryption for e-mail exists.
> OpenPGP und S/MIME are much more powerful than anything these messengers
> offer.

Yes, but both are not used widely used since encryption is optional for
e-mail and not mandatory.

Besides that PGP and S/MIME both had vulnerabilities:
<https://efail.de/>


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Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-17 19:40 +0100
  Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-17 21:32 +0100
    Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-03-18 01:32 +0000
      Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-18 06:27 +0000
        Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-03-18 07:25 +0000
          Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-18 13:17 +0000
    Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-03-18 12:15 +0100
      Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-18 13:31 +0000
        Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-03-18 14:12 +0000
      Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-18 22:25 +0100
        Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-18 23:11 +0100
          Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-19 02:08 +0100
            Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-19 11:07 +0100
              Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-19 17:07 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-22 15:05 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-24 11:14 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-24 14:31 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-24 21:40 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-25 14:12 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-25 17:14 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-25 17:21 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-25 19:47 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-03-26 14:10 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-26 15:36 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-03-27 10:32 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-28 15:01 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-28 17:22 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-28 18:31 +0000
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-28 20:46 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-28 20:13 +0000
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-28 21:41 +0100
              Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-20 03:32 +0000
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-22 15:05 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-22 19:16 +0000
      Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-18 22:31 +0100
  Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-17 20:34 +0000
    Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-17 13:43 -0700
  Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-18 06:58 +0100
  Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-03-18 12:12 +0100
    Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-18 13:44 +0000
      Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-03-18 18:20 +0000
        Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-19 02:38 +0000
          Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-19 11:20 +0100
            Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-03-19 10:32 +0000
              Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-19 15:58 +0000
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-03-19 16:39 +0000
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2025-03-19 17:30 +0000
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-03-19 17:39 +0000
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2025-03-19 17:53 +0000
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-19 18:09 +0000
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