Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones.

From	badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android, uk.telecom.mobile
Subject	Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones.
Date	2025-03-21 17:08 +0000
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Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote:
> Marion <marion@facts.com> writes:
> 
>> On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 12:12:16 +0100, Arno Welzel wrote :
>> 
>> 
>>>> What the article does not clarify is whether Android will also
>>>> implement this (Google uses its own encryption method), and so what
>>>> will happen to cross platform messages.
>>> Since MLS will become part of RCS, Google would be stupid not to
>>> implement it. In fact when MLS is implemented, there is no need to keep
>>> the proprietary solution in place - maybe just as a fall back for old
>>> devices.
>> 
>> Google is already on record for adopting MLS the same time Apple does.
>> What's interesting though is how it will work when the Internet sucks.
>> 
>> Nothing can happen until the two *devices* exchange the keys, right?
>> 
>> Apparently the fallback will be two-fold if there is no Internet:
>> a. Queue the message for a while, and, if necessary... b. Eventually
>> fall back to SMS/MMS
>> 
>> But the fallback will be *different* depending on WHO is offline!
>> 
>> I use the last known good version of PulseSMS so I don't have RCS, but
>> apparently those with Google Messages have to set an option to get that.
>> Automatically resend as SMS/MMS = on/off
> 
> With Google Messages, if you send a message by RCS and you see it has
> not been delivered or read, because the ticks have not lit up, you can
> tap the message and then you get an option to switch to SMS. I think you
> used to be able to hold down the send button, but that seems to have
> changed.
> 

iOS does the same.

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Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-17 19:40 +0100
  Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-17 21:32 +0100
    Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-03-18 01:32 +0000
      Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-18 06:27 +0000
        Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-03-18 07:25 +0000
          Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-18 13:17 +0000
    Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-03-18 12:15 +0100
      Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-18 13:31 +0000
        Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-03-18 14:12 +0000
      Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-18 22:25 +0100
        Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-18 23:11 +0100
          Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-19 02:08 +0100
            Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-19 11:07 +0100
              Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-19 17:07 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-22 15:05 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-24 11:14 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-24 14:31 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-24 21:40 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-25 14:12 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-25 17:14 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-25 17:21 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-25 19:47 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-03-26 14:10 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-26 15:36 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-03-27 10:32 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-28 15:01 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-28 17:22 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-28 18:31 +0000
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-28 20:46 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-28 20:13 +0000
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-28 21:41 +0100
              Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-20 03:32 +0000
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-22 15:05 +0100
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-22 19:16 +0000
      Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-18 22:31 +0100
  Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-17 20:34 +0000
    Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-17 13:43 -0700
  Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-18 06:58 +0100
  Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-03-18 12:12 +0100
    Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-18 13:44 +0000
      Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-03-18 18:20 +0000
        Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-19 02:38 +0000
          Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-19 11:20 +0100
            Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-03-19 10:32 +0000
              Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-19 15:58 +0000
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-03-19 16:39 +0000
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2025-03-19 17:30 +0000
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-03-19 17:39 +0000
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2025-03-19 17:53 +0000
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-19 18:09 +0000
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-03-19 18:37 +0000
                Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Nick Cine <nickcine@is.invalid> - 2025-03-19 11:48 -0600
              Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-03-19 16:55 +0000
      Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-03-21 14:41 +0000
        Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 17:08 +0000

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