Re: Shutdown vs. Restart

From	Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de>
Newsgroups	comp.mobile.android
Subject	Re: Shutdown vs. Restart
Date	2025-03-27 10:39 +0100
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Frank Slootweg, 2025-03-26 16:25:

> Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> wrote:
>> Steve Hayes, 2025-03-24 10:04:
>>
>>> On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 12:16:17 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Learned recently that in later versions of windows, Shutdown does not
>>>> completely shut down windows but Restart does. 
>>>>
>>>> Is that true in Android too? 
>>>
>>> In Windows, I'm pretty sure it is the other way round. 
>>>
>>> Restart doesn't completely shut down Windows, but shutdown does. 
>>
>> No, it's exactly the opposite - because "shutdown" is what people do all
>> the time when they want turn off their computers. For this very reason
>> Windows does only hibernate by default - which means it stores the
>> current RAM content on the SSD so the last state including all open
>> applications will be restored when turning on the computer the next time.
> 
>   Sorry, but that's not correct. If you do a 'Shut down' the system will
> only save the OS to 'disk', not the open applications. And it will only
> save to 'disk' if Fast Startup is enabled (which is the default).

Nitpicking...

>   N.B. If your comment was correct, there would be no 'Hibernate' choice
> in the 'Power' menu.

My Windows 11 setup does *not* have "hibernate" in the power menu. So
you are wrong as well now? Or did you just forgot, that the choices also
depend on settings?

I talked about the *default* setup of Windows nowadays which is "Fast
Startup". And in this *default* case Windows behaves as described since
the previous poster believed, that "shutdown" will always shutdown
without hibernation and "reboot" will restore the state as it was before
the reboot.

>   For an authorative reference:
> 
> Message-ID: <vhquac$1bqtd$1@dont-email.me>
> <http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3Cvhquac%241bqtd%241%40dont-email.me%3E>

This is not "authoritative". Only the document of Microsoft is
authoritative:

<https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/test/weg/delivering-a-great-startup-and-shutdown-experience>


-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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  Re: Shutdown vs. Restart knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-22 13:26 -0400
  Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-22 13:41 -0400
    Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-22 19:07 +0000
      Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-03-23 12:44 +0100
      Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-03-23 12:13 +0000
        Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-23 17:52 +0000
    Re: Shutdown vs. Restart "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-23 15:03 +0100
  Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-03-23 12:34 +0100
  Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-03-24 11:04 +0200
    Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-03-24 11:17 +0000
      Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-03-25 08:53 +0200
        Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-03-25 17:11 +0000
        Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-03-26 14:16 +0100
        Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-26 10:58 -0400
    Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-03-26 14:14 +0100
      Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-26 15:25 +0000
        Re: Shutdown vs. Restart AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-03-26 17:46 +0000
          Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-26 18:34 +0000
            Re: Shutdown vs. Restart AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-03-26 19:38 +0000
              Re: Shutdown vs. Restart micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-03 03:36 -0400
                Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-03 09:49 +0100
                Re: Shutdown vs. Restart micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-03 06:04 -0400
                Re: Shutdown vs. Restart AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-04-03 14:45 +0000
                Re: Shutdown vs. Restart micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-04 12:52 -0400
                Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-04 17:56 +0100
          Re: Shutdown vs. Restart micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-03 03:42 -0400
            Re: Shutdown vs. Restart AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-04-03 14:50 +0000
        Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-03-27 10:39 +0100
          Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-27 11:33 +0000
          Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-27 08:32 -0400
            Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-27 16:39 +0000
      Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-03-27 08:41 +0200
        Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-03-27 10:42 +0100
          Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-03-27 10:18 +0000
            Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-27 11:39 +0000
              Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-03-27 12:23 +0000
                Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-27 15:52 +0000
        Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-03-27 19:06 +0000
          Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-03-27 23:47 +0200
            Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-03-28 02:32 +0000
          Re: Shutdown vs. Restart micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-03 03:47 -0400
  Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-24 16:11 +0100
    Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-03-26 14:19 +0100
      Re: Shutdown vs. Restart micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-03 03:50 -0400

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