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Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android?

From Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android, misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Subject Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android?
Date 2024-05-19 17:12 +0000
Organization People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates
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On 2024-05-19, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> On 2024-05-17 18:29, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2024-05-17, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
>>> Tyrone wrote on Fri, 17 May 2024 00:48:21 +0000 :
>
> ...
>
>>> 3. Presumably that clip _first_ goes to an Apple iMessaging
>>> server?????  (is that correct?) (or does the iPhone do the
>>> splitting?)
>> 
>> Wrong again. The video is sent as an MMS message which goes through
>> the cellular carriers MMS service. Cellular carriers are notorious
>> for degrading MMS video quality to reduce data usage on their
>> networks.
>
> I doubt that.

It's a well known fact that cellular carriers compress MMS videos.
Whether you believe it or not doesn't change that fact.

> They would directly reject the MMS, or simply charge for it.

They compress MMS videos that exceed a certain file size before
delivery. That's a fact.

> I have never known of a cellular carrier degrading a video in transit. 

You don't know much then, because it's standard practice.

> The entry gate to the service that accepts or reject the video, yes.
> And that one is Apple in this case.

Wrong. MMS videos are sent and received over the cellular network -
internet services like Apple's iMessage) are *not* involved in the
transmission of the video.

The fact that people like Arlen and his little band of trolls claim to
know so much about technology, yet are this clueless about such basics
which have been in place for literal decades (all while chiding Apple
users for being clueless) says a *lot* about them.

-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-16 22:12 +0000
  Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-16 23:00 +0000
    Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-17 00:10 +0000
      Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-17 01:24 +0000
        Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-17 19:54 +0000
          Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-17 13:17 -0700
            Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2024-05-17 17:23 -0500
          Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2024-05-17 17:14 -0500
  Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2024-05-17 00:48 +0000
    Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-17 01:25 +0000
      Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-05-17 06:28 +0200
    Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-17 13:15 +0000
      Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-05-17 15:20 +0200
      Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-17 13:35 +0000
      Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2024-05-17 16:24 +0000
        Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-17 16:41 +0000
          Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-05-17 18:16 +0000
            Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-17 19:20 +0000
              Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-05-17 19:49 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-17 20:16 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-17 13:22 -0700
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2024-05-17 17:17 -0500
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-17 15:55 -0700
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2024-05-17 19:22 -0500
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-17 18:01 -0700
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-18 01:04 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-17 18:13 -0700
                How stupid is Arlen? (was Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-17 18:18 -0700
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-18 03:28 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-18 11:39 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-18 16:47 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-18 09:57 -0700
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2024-05-18 17:55 -0500
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-17 23:41 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-18 01:12 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-18 03:30 +0000
            Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-17 23:20 +0000
              Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2024-05-17 23:41 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-17 16:55 -0700
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2024-05-17 19:38 -0500
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-18 00:35 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-18 12:15 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-18 09:26 -0700
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2024-05-18 14:00 +1200
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-18 12:19 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-18 09:27 -0700
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-18 12:11 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-05-18 13:22 +0100
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-18 12:42 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-18 10:30 -0700
              Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-05-19 17:53 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-19 18:21 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-05-19 18:52 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-19 19:10 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-05-20 14:53 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-20 16:45 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-21 10:04 -0700
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-05-20 17:53 +0100
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-20 17:03 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-05-20 20:18 +0100
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-20 21:05 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-21 23:55 -0700
        Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-17 23:11 +0000
    Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-17 15:21 +0000
      Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-17 09:18 -0700
      Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-05-17 18:16 +0200
      Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-17 16:29 +0000
        Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-17 17:03 +0000
          Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-17 23:09 +0000
            Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-18 00:59 +0000
              Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-17 18:07 -0700
              Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-18 03:17 +0000
              Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-18 03:27 +0000
        Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-05-19 17:28 +0200
          Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-19 10:05 -0700
          Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-19 17:12 +0000
      Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2024-05-17 16:36 +0000
        Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-17 17:29 +0000
        Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-05-19 00:26 +0200
  Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-05-17 15:56 +0200
    Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-05-17 16:54 +0200
  Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-05-17 14:15 +0000
    Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-17 15:05 +0000
      Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-17 16:39 +0000
        Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-17 18:29 +0000
          Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-17 23:33 +0000
            Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-18 00:43 +0000
              Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-17 18:12 -0700
              Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-18 03:13 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-18 12:32 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-18 16:54 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-18 16:56 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-18 16:59 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-18 17:03 +0000

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