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Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android?

From Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android
Subject Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android?
Date 2024-05-17 16:39 +0000
Organization People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates
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On 2024-05-17, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
> Frank Slootweg wrote on 17 May 2024 14:15:01 GMT :
>
>> Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
>>> Half my family is on Android, the other half iOS, so whenever the iPhone
>>> users send a video through their text mechanism, it shows up clear for
>>> their iPhone recipients but super blurry for their Android recipients.
>>>  <https://i.postimg.cc/cLBNKJb7/fuzzy.jpg>
>>> 
>>> Why?
>> 
>>   I'm sure the iPhone users don't send the video "through their text
>> mechanism", but through their *messaging* app, probably called
>> 'Messages', and using the iMessage messaging platform.
>> 
>>   Your screenshot mentions MMS, so on the Android side the video is
>> received as a MMS message, hence the appalling 'quality'.
>> 
>>   You get a MMS message, because Apple hasn't implemented iMessage on
>> Android, so seeing a non-iMessage recipient, Apple's Messages/iMessage
>> has no other choice then to convert the video to a crappy MMS message.
>
> Thanks to Tyrone, Carlos & Frank (and even to Jolly Roger) for explaining
> why the new baby videos from this particular grandchild are so blurry.
>
> I bought my grandaughter her iPhone as I give phones as gifts (and I even
> have an old iPhone that I'm going to gift to my great grandchild when he's
> old enough to use a phone since the family is all Apple, 100%).
>
> As you noted, they're using their default messaging app just as I'm using
> my default messaging app, and I appreciate that you used the proper wording
> since the app is called "Messages" but the system is referred to as
> "iMessage" and that you explained to my satisfaction what probably is
> happening (which I would agree with). 
>
> I wasn't aware "where" the conversion of the video to "crappy" happened
> though, because the Apple recipients don't see the short video as crappy. 
>
> Just the Android recipients.
>
> So thanks for letting me know the conversion probably happens at the Apple
> iMessaging server for the senders' Messages app login into Apple servers.
>
> Much appreciated.

You're both wrong. There is no "conversion", and MMS messages aren't
sent through the iMessage service. It's amazing this has to be explained
like you're a five year old, but so be it: The iPhone is a cellular device as
well as an internet device. As such, it has the capability to check with
Apple's iMessage service to see if a recipient is a user that is logged
into the iMessage service. If so, the message is sent through iMessage.
If not, the message is sent through the cellular service as an SMS/MMS.
Cellular providers require MMS messages to be reduced in quality as a
way to reduce cellular data use, which is why videos are degraded when
sent over the cellular service. That's it - no "conversion" takes place,
and the iMessage service is not involved in cellular messaging. 


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Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-16 22:12 +0000
  Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-16 23:00 +0000
    Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-17 00:10 +0000
      Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-17 01:24 +0000
        Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-17 19:54 +0000
          Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-17 13:17 -0700
            Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2024-05-17 17:23 -0500
          Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2024-05-17 17:14 -0500
  Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2024-05-17 00:48 +0000
    Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-17 01:25 +0000
      Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-05-17 06:28 +0200
    Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-17 13:15 +0000
      Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-05-17 15:20 +0200
      Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-17 13:35 +0000
      Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2024-05-17 16:24 +0000
        Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-17 16:41 +0000
          Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-05-17 18:16 +0000
            Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-17 19:20 +0000
              Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-05-17 19:49 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-17 20:16 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-17 13:22 -0700
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2024-05-17 17:17 -0500
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-17 15:55 -0700
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2024-05-17 19:22 -0500
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-17 18:01 -0700
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-18 01:04 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-17 18:13 -0700
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                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-18 03:28 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-18 11:39 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-18 16:47 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-18 09:57 -0700
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2024-05-18 17:55 -0500
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-17 23:41 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-18 01:12 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-18 03:30 +0000
            Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-17 23:20 +0000
              Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2024-05-17 23:41 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-17 16:55 -0700
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2024-05-17 19:38 -0500
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-18 00:35 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-18 12:15 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-18 09:26 -0700
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2024-05-18 14:00 +1200
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-18 12:19 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-18 09:27 -0700
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-18 12:11 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-05-18 13:22 +0100
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-18 12:42 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-18 10:30 -0700
              Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-05-19 17:53 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-19 18:21 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-05-19 18:52 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-19 19:10 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-05-20 14:53 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-20 16:45 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-21 10:04 -0700
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-05-20 17:53 +0100
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-20 17:03 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-05-20 20:18 +0100
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-20 21:05 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-21 23:55 -0700
        Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-17 23:11 +0000
    Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-17 15:21 +0000
      Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-17 09:18 -0700
      Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-05-17 18:16 +0200
      Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-17 16:29 +0000
        Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-17 17:03 +0000
          Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-17 23:09 +0000
            Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-18 00:59 +0000
              Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-17 18:07 -0700
              Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-18 03:17 +0000
              Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-18 03:27 +0000
        Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-05-19 17:28 +0200
          Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-19 10:05 -0700
          Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-19 17:12 +0000
      Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2024-05-17 16:36 +0000
        Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-17 17:29 +0000
        Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-05-19 00:26 +0200
  Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-05-17 15:56 +0200
    Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-05-17 16:54 +0200
  Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-05-17 14:15 +0000
    Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-17 15:05 +0000
      Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-17 16:39 +0000
        Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-17 18:29 +0000
          Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-17 23:33 +0000
            Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-18 00:43 +0000
              Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-17 18:12 -0700
              Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-18 03:13 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-18 12:32 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-18 16:54 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-18 16:56 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-18 16:59 +0000
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