Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]


Groups > comp.mobile.android > #141231

Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android?

From Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android, misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Subject Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android?
Date 2024-05-17 23:20 +0000
Organization People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates
Message-ID <laq71mFrutkU3@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
References (1 earlier) <bbqcnYU8kqHINNv7nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@supernews.com> <v27l9m$12em$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <RtadnWmejrM2Gdr7nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@supernews.com> <v281c1$1qos$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <v28dq2.1dc.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>

Cross-posted to 2 groups.

Show all headers | View raw


On 2024-05-17, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
> Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
> [...]
>
>> The two questions which need to be known to begin to understand the
>> process well enough to solve it are those which trace the path of the
>> video clip.
>
>   You can't "solve" it, without the *sender* using a *different*
>   method to get the video to you, i.e. as has been mentioned, using
>   some 'cloud' or other file transfer service.
>
>> 1. Is the video split up on the iPhone, Apple servers or carrier
>> servers?
>
>   With "split up", you mean the communication path is split, the video
>   isn't split.
>
>   Answer: (As Carlos indicated,) On the iPhone. Your mobile number is
>   in the sender's (i.e. iPhone) contacts. The Messages app on the
>   iPhone sees it's a mobile phone number, so it decides to send a MMS
>   message. As Carlos mentioned, the decision must be taken on the
>   iPhone, because the cost of the MMS message (even if it comes out of
>   a bundle) must be charged to the iPhone user's mobile provider

Close, but still incorrect. It's not about whether it's a phone number
or not. It's about whether the recipient is an iMessage user. iMessage
users can and do register their phone numbers as iMessage recipient
numbers, and they can also register email addresses.


>> 2. Is the video downsized on the iPhone, Apple servers or carrier servers?
>
>   As we don't use MMS in the real world, 

MMS has only been in use on mobile phones since 2002, and is still in
use by people all over the world today, though certainly not as much as
previous years, especially since more robust and feature-packed internet
messaging apps gained popularity - but make no mistake, it is still used
in the real world (and is what we are discussing in this very thread).

> I don't know where the
> (resolution) shrinking of the video is done, but I assume it's done on
> the iPhone. Doing it on other servers would mean a huge waste of -
> possibly very costly - mobile data.

No. The video is sent full size by the iPhone and the compression
happens on the receiving cellular network.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

Back to comp.mobile.android | Previous | NextPrevious in thread | Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread


Thread

Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-16 22:12 +0000
  Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-16 23:00 +0000
    Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-17 00:10 +0000
      Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-17 01:24 +0000
        Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-17 19:54 +0000
          Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-17 13:17 -0700
            Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2024-05-17 17:23 -0500
          Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2024-05-17 17:14 -0500
  Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2024-05-17 00:48 +0000
    Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-17 01:25 +0000
      Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-05-17 06:28 +0200
    Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-17 13:15 +0000
      Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-05-17 15:20 +0200
      Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-17 13:35 +0000
      Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2024-05-17 16:24 +0000
        Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-17 16:41 +0000
          Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-05-17 18:16 +0000
            Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-17 19:20 +0000
              Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-05-17 19:49 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-17 20:16 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-17 13:22 -0700
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2024-05-17 17:17 -0500
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-17 15:55 -0700
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2024-05-17 19:22 -0500
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-17 18:01 -0700
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-18 01:04 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-17 18:13 -0700
                How stupid is Arlen? (was Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-17 18:18 -0700
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-18 03:28 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-18 11:39 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-18 16:47 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-18 09:57 -0700
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2024-05-18 17:55 -0500
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-17 23:41 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-18 01:12 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-18 03:30 +0000
            Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-17 23:20 +0000
              Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2024-05-17 23:41 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-17 16:55 -0700
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2024-05-17 19:38 -0500
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-18 00:35 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-18 12:15 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-18 09:26 -0700
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2024-05-18 14:00 +1200
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-18 12:19 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-18 09:27 -0700
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-18 12:11 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-05-18 13:22 +0100
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-18 12:42 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-18 10:30 -0700
              Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-05-19 17:53 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-19 18:21 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-05-19 18:52 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-19 19:10 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-05-20 14:53 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-20 16:45 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-21 10:04 -0700
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-05-20 17:53 +0100
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-20 17:03 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-05-20 20:18 +0100
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-20 21:05 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-21 23:55 -0700
        Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-17 23:11 +0000
    Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-17 15:21 +0000
      Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-17 09:18 -0700
      Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-05-17 18:16 +0200
      Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-17 16:29 +0000
        Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-17 17:03 +0000
          Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-17 23:09 +0000
            Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-18 00:59 +0000
              Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-17 18:07 -0700
              Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-18 03:17 +0000
              Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-18 03:27 +0000
        Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-05-19 17:28 +0200
          Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-19 10:05 -0700
          Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-19 17:12 +0000
      Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2024-05-17 16:36 +0000
        Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-17 17:29 +0000
        Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-05-19 00:26 +0200
  Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-05-17 15:56 +0200
    Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-05-17 16:54 +0200
  Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-05-17 14:15 +0000
    Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-17 15:05 +0000
      Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-17 16:39 +0000
        Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-17 18:29 +0000
          Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-17 23:33 +0000
            Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-18 00:43 +0000
              Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-17 18:12 -0700
              Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-18 03:13 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-18 12:32 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-18 16:54 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-18 16:56 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-18 16:59 +0000
                Re: Why are iPhone videos clear when sent to iPhones but blurry when sent to Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-18 17:03 +0000

csiph-web