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Pokemon Go

Started by	Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
First post	2016-07-15 13:49 +1000
Last post	2016-07-16 21:41 +0100
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  Pokemon Go Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-07-15 13:49 +1000
    Re: Pokemon Go Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-07-15 06:47 +0000
      Re: Pokemon Go Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-07-15 19:48 +1000
        Re: Pokemon Go Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-07-15 13:00 +0300
          Re: Pokemon Go Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-07-16 04:09 -0300
        Re: Pokemon Go mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> - 2016-07-15 18:54 +0100
    Re: Pokemon Go juu <juu@opmbx.org> - 2016-07-15 11:32 +0300
    Re: Pokemon Go Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-07-15 10:15 +0000
    Re: Pokemon Go Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-07-15 10:29 -0400
      Re: Pokemon Go Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-07-15 17:44 +0300
      Re: Pokemon Go Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2016-07-15 16:37 +0000
        Re: Pokemon Go RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2016-07-17 22:40 +0000
      Re: Pokemon Go British Rocket Group <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-08-06 20:50 +0000
        Re: Pokemon Go RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2016-08-06 21:31 -0400
    Re: Pokemon Go RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2016-07-15 21:48 +0000
      Re: Pokemon Go "Andy K." <andy.k466@gmail.com> - 2016-07-16 00:13 +0200
      Re: Pokemon Go Hils <hils@saynotospam.net> - 2016-07-16 21:41 +0100

#11525 — Pokemon Go

From	Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date	2016-07-15 13:49 +1000
Subject	Pokemon Go
Message-ID	<dur4qvF3gm2U1@mid.individual.net>

I just don't get it. What is the fascination with this game?

Sylvia.

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#11526

From	Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx>
Date	2016-07-15 06:47 +0000
Message-ID	<durf76F8hjnU20@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#11525

On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 13:49:51 +1000, Sylvia Else wrote:

> I just don't get it. What is the fascination with this game?

One couls say the same about Candy Crush. At least people actually get 
out a bit with PG!


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#11528

From	Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date	2016-07-15 19:48 +1000
Message-ID	<durpqpF89olU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#11526

On 15/07/2016 4:47 PM, Bob Eager wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 13:49:51 +1000, Sylvia Else wrote:
>
>> I just don't get it. What is the fascination with this game?
>
> One couls say the same about Candy Crush. At least people actually get
> out a bit with PG!
>
>

Though it looks as if the resulting health improvements might be offset 
by people walking into objects, traffic, etc.

Police here have already caught people playing it while driving.

Sylvia

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#11529

From	Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net>
Date	2016-07-15 13:00 +0300
Message-ID	<87eg6vcjbv.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net>
In reply to	#11528

Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>:

> Though it looks as if the resulting health improvements might be
> offset by people walking into objects, traffic, etc.

That's why I never leave my room.


Marko

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#11541

From	Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere>
Date	2016-07-16 04:09 -0300
Message-ID	<8737najbyj.fsf@bogus.nodomain.nowhere>
In reply to	#11529

Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> writes:

> Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>:
> 
>> Though it looks as if the resulting health improvements might be
>> offset by people walking into objects, traffic, etc.
> 
> That's why I never leave my room.

Hikikomori?

-- 
Mike Spencer                  Nova Scotia, Canada

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#11534

From	mm0fmf <none@invalid.com>
Date	2016-07-15 18:54 +0100
Message-ID	<nmb80g$co8$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#11528

On 15/07/2016 10:48, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 15/07/2016 4:47 PM, Bob Eager wrote:
>> On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 13:49:51 +1000, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>
>>> I just don't get it. What is the fascination with this game?
>>
>> One couls say the same about Candy Crush. At least people actually get
>> out a bit with PG!
>>
>>
>
> Though it looks as if the resulting health improvements might be offset
> by people walking into objects, traffic, etc.
>
> Police here have already caught people playing it while driving.
>
> Sylvia

It has speed detection in its movement algorithms and stops working
when you move fast, such as in a car.

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#11527

From	juu <juu@opmbx.org>
Date	2016-07-15 11:32 +0300
Message-ID	<877fcnjo80.fsf@opmbx.org>
In reply to	#11525

Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> writes:

> I just don't get it. What is the fascination with this game?

- Pokemon brand.  Players are familiar with the concept, or fans even.
  That makes it easier to grab the game.

- Augmented reality.  Use of location and cameras is a new way of
  playing, especially to those who haven't tried Ingress, which is
  another game from the same publisher as Go's.  The characters won't
  feel as virtual when you can see them on the map and in the places of
  your neighbourhood.

- Hype.  All your friends are playing it, so you should try it too!

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#11530

From	Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid>
Date	2016-07-15 10:15 +0000
Message-ID	<durreeF8kkjU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#11525

On 2016-07-15, Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote:
> I just don't get it. What is the fascination with this game?

Especially given that it was apparently invented as an April Fool.

-- 
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Celebrate Confuflux
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    If you have a problem with my attitude, that's your problem.

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#11531

From	Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
Date	2016-07-15 10:29 -0400
Message-ID	<alpine.LNX.2.02.1607151026190.11899@darkstar.example.org>
In reply to	#11525

On Fri, 15 Jul 2016, Sylvia Else wrote:

> I just don't get it. What is the fascination with this game?
>
>
This is the sad part about the Internet Age, it's all become quite dumbed 
down. So the things that get the highest travel are the most mundane 
things. "So and so broke their arm", but that only means something if you 
already know who so and so is. And since anyone can now speak, instead of 
writing about how it is to be homeless or a native, everyone yammers about 
the latest thing, so it's hard to tell the actual value of something.  Is 
it actually something of value, or something everyone is talking about?

Even old media covers "viral" stories.  But I have no idea if they got 
good travel before landing in old media, or if old media is a vector for 
that high travel.

   Michael

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#11532

From	Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net>
Date	2016-07-15 17:44 +0300
Message-ID	<87eg6vx8ol.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net>
In reply to	#11531

Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca>:

> On Fri, 15 Jul 2016, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> I just don't get it. What is the fascination with this game?
>
> This is the sad part about the Internet Age, it's all become quite
> dumbed down.

I don't find it either sad or dumbed down. For decades computers were a
(sad?) hobby of (sad?) nerds. Now that computers finally have elevated
people's existence level a notch up, it's somehow sad.

I find the whole world more like a village now. News and information is
right there. People are right there. Fun is right there.

> So the things that get the highest travel are the most mundane things.
> "So and so broke their arm", but that only means something if you
> already know who so and so is.

That's how it was a hundred years ago, too, except that you only learned
about it once or twice a year when your sister sent you a letter from
Australia.

> And since anyone can now speak, instead of writing about how it is to
> be homeless or a native, everyone yammers about the latest thing, so
> it's hard to tell the actual value of something.

What is a "native?" How and who did the homeless write about their lives
in the past?

> Is it actually something of value, or something everyone is talking
> about?

Nobody prevents you from writing something of value. In fact, it is
easier to publish your valuable writings today than it ever was. In the
past, you might not have found anybody in your neighborhood who'd be
interested in your "valuable" writings, but chances are, you'll find a
receptive audience in one of today's niche chat groups that span the
globe.

Marko

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#11533

From	Rich <rich@example.invalid>
Date	2016-07-15 16:37 +0000
Message-ID	<nmb3gn$r8i$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#11531

Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Jul 2016, Sylvia Else wrote:
> 
>> I just don't get it. What is the fascination with this game?
>>
> Even old media covers "viral" stories.  But I have no idea if they got 
> good travel before landing in old media, or if old media is a vector for 
> that high travel.

More likely it is this: "if we 'cover' those 'viral' stories, we get
more ad impressions, therefore we get more ad revenue".

I.e., they (old media) are covering it not because it is at all
newsworthy, but because they are chasing dollars.

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#11558

From	RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com>
Date	2016-07-17 22:40 +0000
Message-ID	<nmh1hg$ad4$2@solani.org>
In reply to	#11533

On 2016-07-15, Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
> Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote:
>> On Fri, 15 Jul 2016, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> 
>>> I just don't get it. What is the fascination with this game?
>>>
>> Even old media covers "viral" stories.  But I have no idea if they got 
>> good travel before landing in old media, or if old media is a vector for 
>> that high travel.
>
> More likely it is this: "if we 'cover' those 'viral' stories, we get
> more ad impressions, therefore we get more ad revenue".
>
> I.e., they (old media) are covering it not because it is at all
> newsworthy, but because they are chasing dollars.

Yet another reason to let the "free content in exchange for advertising
dollars" model die in a fire.  Once you have to pay for content the balance
of content will be different, and niche subjects of quality - if they find
enough readers willing to pay - will be able to sustain themselves. 
Essentially, the same model as the print magazines had back "in the day."
The only thing to have changed will be the medium from paper to digital.

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#11690

From	British Rocket Group <no_email@invalid.invalid>
Date	2016-08-06 20:50 +0000
Message-ID	<no5ij9$gtb$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#11531

Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Jul 2016, Sylvia Else wrote:
> 
>> I just don't get it. What is the fascination with this game?
>> 
>> 
> This is the sad part about the Internet Age, it's all become quite dumbed 
> down. So the things that get the highest travel are the most mundane 
> things. "So and so broke their arm", but that only means something if you 
> already know who so and so is. And since anyone can now speak, instead of 
> writing about how it is to be homeless or a native, everyone yammers about 
> the latest thing, so it's hard to tell the actual value of something.  Is 
> it actually something of value, or something everyone is talking about?
> 
> Even old media covers "viral" stories.  But I have no idea if they got 
> good travel before landing in old media, or if old media is a vector for 
> that high travel.
> 
>   Michael
> 
> 

The Internet has changed from a Usenet style experience where you don't
know people, to friending people you know and communicating within your own
peer group.

It's just the way things went.

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#11698

From	RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com>
Date	2016-08-06 21:31 -0400
Message-ID	<ljfi7d-uo1.ln1@koala.therandymon.com>
In reply to	#11690

On 2016-08-06, British Rocket Group <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote:
>> On Fri, 15 Jul 2016, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> 
>>> I just don't get it. What is the fascination with this game?
>>> 
>>> 
>> This is the sad part about the Internet Age, it's all become quite dumbed 
>> down. So the things that get the highest travel are the most mundane 
>> things. "So and so broke their arm", but that only means something if you 
>> already know who so and so is. And since anyone can now speak, instead of 
>> writing about how it is to be homeless or a native, everyone yammers about 
>> the latest thing, so it's hard to tell the actual value of something.  Is 
>> it actually something of value, or something everyone is talking about?
>> 
>> Even old media covers "viral" stories.  But I have no idea if they got 
>> good travel before landing in old media, or if old media is a vector for 
>> that high travel.
>> 
>>   Michael
>> 
>> 
>
> The Internet has changed from a Usenet style experience where you don't
> know people, to friending people you know and communicating within your own
> peer group.
>
> It's just the way things went.
>

Maybe not universally?  Check out hacker news (http://news.ycombinator.com). 
Everyone has a handle, like Slashdot, and the quality of conversation is
high because mods wipe the snarky stuff right off the map.  It's people who
don't know each other conversing about a topic of common interest.

I think there is still room on the 'net for smart people to find each other
and converse about smart things.  Yeah, Facebook is there too for those
other types.  There's still room for all the different models, if you look
for them.

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#11535

From	RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com>
Date	2016-07-15 21:48 +0000
Message-ID	<nmblms$lk9$1@solani.org>
In reply to	#11525

On 2016-07-15, Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote:
> I just don't get it. What is the fascination with this game?
>
> Sylvia.

It's really FUN, for one.  Look how the data shows people spending more
people on Pokemon Go than on Facebook - that's a rarity.

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#11536

From	"Andy K." <andy.k466@gmail.com>
Date	2016-07-16 00:13 +0200
Message-ID	<nmbn6t$9ki$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#11535

On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 21:48:13 +0000 (UTC)
RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:

> It's really FUN, for one.  Look how the data shows people spending more
> people on Pokemon Go than on Facebook - that's a rarity.

I do not think this particular factoid is meaningful at all. People
spend more time with a game than with what is essentially a messaging
platform. Big surprise. I too spend more time doing something I have
fun doing than checking my e-mail.

-- 
AndyK

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#11545

From	Hils <hils@saynotospam.net>
Date	2016-07-16 21:41 +0100
Message-ID	<nme667$1m1e$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to	#11535

On 15/07/16 22:48, RS Wood wrote:
> On 2016-07-15, Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote:
>> I just don't get it. What is the fascination with this game?
>>
> It's really FUN, for one.  Look how the data shows people spending more
> people on Pokemon Go than on Facebook - that's a rarity.

"Pokémon Go servers crashed across Europe and the US on Saturday, as 
global demand for the hit mobile app soared in its first weekend since 
being launched in the UK.

Players in 26 countries took advantage of mostly good weather to venture 
outdoors to hunt and capture their first Pokémon creatures, with 
millions having downloaded the game in its first days since release. [...]"

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jul/16/pokemon-go-server-crash-niantic-europe-us

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Pokemon Go

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#11525 — Pokemon Go

#11526

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