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Re: alpine as newsreader, allowing server to set Message-ID

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Eduardo Chappa <chappa@washington.edu> wrote:
>On Tue, 28 Apr 2026, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>Eduardo Chappa <chappa@washington.edu> wrote:
>>>Tue, 28 Apr 2026, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>Eduardo Chappa <chappa@washington.edu> wrote:
>>>>>On Mon, 27 Apr 2026, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

>>>>>>In a test newsgroup, a user's News article had this Message-ID.

>>>>>>Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.22.394.2604262138340.794162@XPS13>

>>>>>>That's nonstandard.

>>>>>What standard is the one you are referring to?

>>>>USEFOR RFC 5536

>>>>The right part is commonly derived from a domain. Fine, that's not a 
>>>>MUST.

>>>Right, however, the release notes for version 2.24 say:

>>>    + Alpine uses the domain in the From: header of a message to generate
>>>      a message-id and suppresses all information about Alpine,
>>>      version, revision, and time of generation of the message-id from
>>>      this header. This information is replaced by a random string.

>>>Would upgrading to a more current version of Alpine help you? (see the 
>>>message-id of this message to see it in action).

>>I'm not the O.P. I asked here because I saw the Message-ID and thought 
>>it was nonstandard. Since I reread USEFOR, I know it's not.

>We never saw that message here, so from our perspective, this was your 
>question. Keep that in mind as we talk to you.

It was absolutely my question, not the O.P.'s. I was the one who cared
about how the right part of the Message-ID was set in his test News
article. Since you provide excellent user support, this is the right
newsgroup in which to ask.

Thank you as always.

>>I am using a DEB package too. I see that it's version 2.26. The left 
>>part is a random string. I've long had the feature set for ROT-13 of the 
>>domain used for the right part. Doesn't that go back to pine?

>The ROT-13 part is from the time of Pine, yes. What I am talking about is 
>that since version 2.24 the part to the right of the @ character in the 
>message-id is an actual domain. In previous versions of Pine/Alpine it 
>might be a machine name, not a domain name. Since version 2.24 it is the 
>domain from the From: field, not related in any way to the machine you are 
>using. The message-id you posted in your first post did not have a domain 
>in that place. An upgrade would change that.

If that were a host name, I simply assumed that he didn't have domain
set in his Debian configuration where alpine could find it and he left
User-Domain unset in .pinerc.

In my .pinerc, I must set User-Domain because the host itself is in a
different domain that I do not use on From.

>>. . . 

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alpine as newsreader, allowing server to set Message-ID "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-04-27 10:57 +0000
  Re: alpine as newsreader, allowing server to set Message-ID Eduardo Chappa <chappa@washington.edu> - 2026-04-27 12:15 -0600
    Re: alpine as newsreader, allowing server to set Message-ID John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-04-27 19:45 +0000
      Re: alpine as newsreader, allowing server to set Message-ID Eduardo Chappa <chappa@washington.edu> - 2026-05-04 20:58 -0600
    Re: alpine as newsreader, allowing server to set Message-ID "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-04-28 00:05 +0000
      Re: alpine as newsreader, allowing server to set Message-ID Eduardo Chappa <chappa@washington.edu> - 2026-04-27 21:33 -0600
        Re: alpine as newsreader, allowing server to set Message-ID "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-04-28 04:57 +0000
          Re: alpine as newsreader, allowing server to set Message-ID Eduardo Chappa <chappa@washington.edu> - 2026-04-27 23:44 -0600
            Re: alpine as newsreader, allowing server to set Message-ID "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-04-28 12:07 +0000

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