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Re: alpine as newsreader, allowing server to set Message-ID

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Eduardo Chappa <chappa@washington.edu> wrote:
>Tue, 28 Apr 2026, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>Eduardo Chappa <chappa@washington.edu> wrote:
>>>On Mon, 27 Apr 2026, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

>>>>In a test newsgroup, a user's News article had this Message-ID.

>>>>Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.22.394.2604262138340.794162@XPS13>

>>>>That's nonstandard.

>>>What standard is the one you are referring to?

>>USEFOR RFC 5536

>>The right part is commonly derived from a domain. Fine, that's not a
>>MUST.

>Right, however, the release notes for version 2.24 say:

>     + Alpine uses the domain in the From: header of a message to generate
>       a message-id and suppresses all information about Alpine, version,
>       revision, and time of generation of the message-id from this header.
>       This information is replaced by a random string.

>Would upgrading to a more current version of Alpine help you? (see the 
>message-id of this message to see it in action).

I'm not the O.P. I asked here because I saw the Message-ID and thought
it was nonstandard. Since I reread USEFOR, I know it's not.

I am using a DEB package too. I see that it's version 2.26. The left
part is a random string. I've long had the feature set for ROT-13 of the
domain used for the right part. Doesn't that go back to pine?

If I see the O.P. posting again, I'll suggest that he might install a
more recent package or build the latest version himself.

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alpine as newsreader, allowing server to set Message-ID "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-04-27 10:57 +0000
  Re: alpine as newsreader, allowing server to set Message-ID Eduardo Chappa <chappa@washington.edu> - 2026-04-27 12:15 -0600
    Re: alpine as newsreader, allowing server to set Message-ID John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-04-27 19:45 +0000
      Re: alpine as newsreader, allowing server to set Message-ID Eduardo Chappa <chappa@washington.edu> - 2026-05-04 20:58 -0600
    Re: alpine as newsreader, allowing server to set Message-ID "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-04-28 00:05 +0000
      Re: alpine as newsreader, allowing server to set Message-ID Eduardo Chappa <chappa@washington.edu> - 2026-04-27 21:33 -0600
        Re: alpine as newsreader, allowing server to set Message-ID "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-04-28 04:57 +0000
          Re: alpine as newsreader, allowing server to set Message-ID Eduardo Chappa <chappa@washington.edu> - 2026-04-27 23:44 -0600
            Re: alpine as newsreader, allowing server to set Message-ID "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-04-28 12:07 +0000

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