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Re: alpine as newsreader, allowing server to set Message-ID

From Eduardo Chappa <chappa@washington.edu>
Newsgroups comp.mail.pine
Subject Re: alpine as newsreader, allowing server to set Message-ID
Date 2026-04-27 21:33 -0600
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On Tue, 28 Apr 2026, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

> Eduardo Chappa <chappa@washington.edu> wrote:
>> On Mon, 27 Apr 2026, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>
>>> In a test newsgroup, a user's News article had this Message-ID.
>
>>> Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.22.394.2604262138340.794162@XPS13>
>
>>> That's nonstandard.
>
>> What standard is the one you are referring to?
>
> USEFOR RFC 5536
>
> The right part is commonly derived from a domain. Fine, that's not a
> MUST.

Right, however, the release notes for version 2.24 say:

     + Alpine uses the domain in the From: header of a message to generate
       a message-id and suppresses all information about Alpine, version,
       revision, and time of generation of the message-id from this header.
       This information is replaced by a random string.

Would upgrading to a more current version of Alpine help you? (see the 
message-id of this message to see it in action).

-- 
Eduardo

>
>>> Now, I realize that the right part of the Message-ID can be set in
>>> .pinerc. How can alpine be set to allow the News server to provide
>>> Message-ID and not alpine?
>
>> Alpine always generates the Message-ID header, so there is no way to avoid
>> this.
>
> Ok.
>

-- 
Eduardo
https://alpineapp.email (web)
http://repo.or.cz/alpine.git (Git)

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alpine as newsreader, allowing server to set Message-ID "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-04-27 10:57 +0000
  Re: alpine as newsreader, allowing server to set Message-ID Eduardo Chappa <chappa@washington.edu> - 2026-04-27 12:15 -0600
    Re: alpine as newsreader, allowing server to set Message-ID John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-04-27 19:45 +0000
      Re: alpine as newsreader, allowing server to set Message-ID Eduardo Chappa <chappa@washington.edu> - 2026-05-04 20:58 -0600
    Re: alpine as newsreader, allowing server to set Message-ID "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-04-28 00:05 +0000
      Re: alpine as newsreader, allowing server to set Message-ID Eduardo Chappa <chappa@washington.edu> - 2026-04-27 21:33 -0600
        Re: alpine as newsreader, allowing server to set Message-ID "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-04-28 04:57 +0000
          Re: alpine as newsreader, allowing server to set Message-ID Eduardo Chappa <chappa@washington.edu> - 2026-04-27 23:44 -0600
            Re: alpine as newsreader, allowing server to set Message-ID "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-04-28 12:07 +0000

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