Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!nntp.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Adam H. Kerman" Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Subject: Re: alpine as newsreader, allowing server to set Message-ID Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2026 12:07:52 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 63 Message-ID: <10sq7uo$33u0p$1@dont-email.me> References: <10snffa$29t79$2@dont-email.me> <7d248cfb-d1bd-129a-d8e9-2de873bcf66d@washington.edu> <10speod$2svh5$1@dont-email.me> <7bdbb8b1-4f4a-e700-4dd5-7efb2f4c8d60@washington.edu> Injection-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2026 12:07:53 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a2c76452ba32ef863c24804e63420315"; logging-data="3274777"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18LCvaBkGCRqsTXOjlAi8KwUsLanTPKcLs=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:yoYNzyDq40eUyfYm3rXl53MIumY= X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test77 (Sep 1, 2010) Xref: csiph.com comp.mail.pine:3239 Eduardo Chappa wrote: >On Tue, 28 Apr 2026, Adam H. Kerman wrote: >>Eduardo Chappa wrote: >>>Tue, 28 Apr 2026, Adam H. Kerman wrote: >>>>Eduardo Chappa wrote: >>>>>On Mon, 27 Apr 2026, Adam H. Kerman wrote: >>>>>>In a test newsgroup, a user's News article had this Message-ID. >>>>>>Message-ID: >>>>>>That's nonstandard. >>>>>What standard is the one you are referring to? >>>>USEFOR RFC 5536 >>>>The right part is commonly derived from a domain. Fine, that's not a >>>>MUST. >>>Right, however, the release notes for version 2.24 say: >>> + Alpine uses the domain in the From: header of a message to generate >>> a message-id and suppresses all information about Alpine, >>> version, revision, and time of generation of the message-id from >>> this header. This information is replaced by a random string. >>>Would upgrading to a more current version of Alpine help you? (see the >>>message-id of this message to see it in action). >>I'm not the O.P. I asked here because I saw the Message-ID and thought >>it was nonstandard. Since I reread USEFOR, I know it's not. >We never saw that message here, so from our perspective, this was your >question. Keep that in mind as we talk to you. It was absolutely my question, not the O.P.'s. I was the one who cared about how the right part of the Message-ID was set in his test News article. Since you provide excellent user support, this is the right newsgroup in which to ask. Thank you as always. >>I am using a DEB package too. I see that it's version 2.26. The left >>part is a random string. I've long had the feature set for ROT-13 of the >>domain used for the right part. Doesn't that go back to pine? >The ROT-13 part is from the time of Pine, yes. What I am talking about is >that since version 2.24 the part to the right of the @ character in the >message-id is an actual domain. In previous versions of Pine/Alpine it >might be a machine name, not a domain name. Since version 2.24 it is the >domain from the From: field, not related in any way to the machine you are >using. The message-id you posted in your first post did not have a domain >in that place. An upgrade would change that. If that were a host name, I simply assumed that he didn't have domain set in his Debian configuration where alpine could find it and he left User-Domain unset in .pinerc. In my .pinerc, I must set User-Domain because the host itself is in a different domain that I do not use on From. >>. . .