Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mail Man Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc Subject: Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 23:08:34 -0400 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 73 Message-ID: <507CCFB2.4B5D2DAD@Man.com> References: <507C7568.7C3DB3AA@Man.com> <5ddd6df7fc1ae76ddc389740997203b2@msgid.frell.theremailer.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: jFz6ePD8ouMrJdp75Vv44g.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: csiph.com comp.mail.misc:305 Fritz Wuehler wrote: > > You mean like if terrorists want to send e-mail to each other? > > What's the implication? That privacy is criminal? That what you have to communicate to someone else is worth more than two shits. Or that some third party can intercept your mail. > Encryption: It's not just for fascists anymore! No - just geeks. > > Not once have I / we ever received an email with a PGP signature, > > or were asked to obtain and use PGP signing as a pre-condition > > of engaging in email communication. > > Sounds like you're one of the many incompetent, irresponsible > shitheads whose laptops get stolen I don't own a laptop. > resulting in millions of personal records being exposed. And we don't have records (of any sort) for millions (or even hundreds) of people. > If you really believe that is good enough you will change your > mind when one of your emails or stupid posts comes back to haunt > you. Even if my emails with person-X were encrypted, person-X could still use them against me at some point in the future if it was to their advantage. > Hint: your fake email address doesn't help. Doesn't help what? Help hide my identity? So tell me who I am, where I am then. > > So I continue to ask who, beyond those with a fetish for > > IT technology, has a real-world need for PGP encryption > > or signing as part of email communication? > > Anybody who wants to keep his communications private, for > whatever reason. What good is sending an encrypted or pgp-signed email to someone who doesn't know how to decrypt it - or who doesn't know (or doesn't care) about pgp signing? How much of a hassle is it to coax everyone in your contact list to install this-or-that encryption/decryption/pgp software on their desktop/laptop/cellphone ?? Or does playing with secret decoder rings still give you a buzz? > You don't have to like it, motherfucker. It happens. It's not a question about me liking it asswipe - it's about understanding what of any practical value is accomplished in the end. Have you ever received an email that your PGP software identified as being fake? (ie - it was not really sent by the person who claimed to be the sender) Has anyone ever tried to impersonate you in an email they sent to someone else?