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| From | Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick <kwpolska@gmail.com> |
| Date | Sat, 20 Apr 2013 20:15:07 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Is Unicode support so hard... |
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On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Benjamin Kaplan <benjamin.kaplan@case.edu> wrote: > On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> wrote: >> On 4/20/2013 1:12 PM, jmfauth wrote: >>> >>> In a previous post, >>> >>> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/6aec70817705c226# >>> , >>> >>> Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick wrote: >>> >>> “Is Unicode support so hard, especially in the 21st century?” >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Unicode is not really complicate and it works very well (more >>> than two decades of development if you take into account >>> iso-14****). >>> >>> But, - I can say, "as usual" - people prefer to spend their >>> time to make a "better Unicode than Unicode" and it usually >>> fails. Python does not escape to this rule. >>> >>> ----- >>> >>> I'm "busy" with TeX (unicode engine variant), fonts and typography. >>> This gives me plenty of ideas to test the "flexible string >>> representation" (FSR). I should recognize this FSR is failing >>> particulary very well... >>> >>> I can almost say, a delight. >>> >>> jmf >>> Unicode lover >> >> I'm totally confused about what you are saying. What does "make a better >> Unicode than Unicode" mean? Are you saying that Python is guilty of this? >> In what way? Can you provide specifics? Or are you saying that you like >> how Python has implemented it? "FSR is failing ... a delight"? I don't >> know what you mean. >> >> --Ned. > > Don't bother trying to figure this out. jmfauth has been hijacking > every thread that mentions Unicode to complain about the flexible > string representation introduced in Python 3.3. Apparently, having > proper Unicode semantics (indexing is based on characters, not code > points) at the expense of performance when calling .replace on the > only non-ASCII or BMP character in the string is a horrible bug. > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list Don’t forget the original context: this was a short remark to a guy I was responding to. His newsgroups software (slrn according to the headers) mangled the encoding of U+201C and U+201D in my From field, turning them into three question marks each. And jmf started a rant, as usual… PS. There are two fancy Unicode characters around. Can you find both of them, jmf? -- Kwpolska <http://kwpolska.tk> | GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16 stop html mail | always bottom-post http://asciiribbon.org | http://caliburn.nl/topposting.html
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Is Unicode support so hard... jmfauth <wxjmfauth@gmail.com> - 2013-04-20 10:12 -0700
Re: Is Unicode support so hard... Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2013-04-20 13:22 -0400
Re: Is Unicode support so hard... Benjamin Kaplan <benjamin.kaplan@case.edu> - 2013-04-20 11:02 -0700
Re: Is Unicode support so hard... Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-04-21 04:14 +1000
Re: Is Unicode support so hard... Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick <kwpolska@gmail.com> - 2013-04-20 20:15 +0200
Re: Is Unicode support so hard... Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-04-20 19:18 +0100
Re: Is Unicode support so hard... Neil Hodgson <nhodgson@iinet.net.au> - 2013-04-21 09:03 +1000
Re: Is Unicode support so hard... rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-04-20 18:37 -0700
Re: Is Unicode support so hard... Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-04-21 03:36 +0000
Re: Is Unicode support so hard... Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-04-21 13:42 +1000
Re: Is Unicode support so hard... Terry Jan Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2013-04-21 05:02 -0400
Re: Is Unicode support so hard... Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-04-21 13:03 +0100
Re: Is Unicode support so hard... Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2013-04-20 18:06 -0700
Re: Is Unicode support so hard... 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2013-04-20 23:09 -0700
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