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Re: Python 3.5, bytes, and %-interpolation (aka PEP 461)

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Date Mon, 24 Feb 2014 13:53:03 -0800
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On 02/24/2014 01:04 PM, random832@fastmail.us wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 24, 2014, at 15:46, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>> That is:
>>
>>   1. ineffient (encode/decode shuffle)
>>
>>   2. unnatural (strings usually have no place in protocols)
>
> That's not at all clear. Why _aren't_ these protocols considered text
> protocols? Why can't you add a string directly to headers?

Because text is a high-order abstraction.  You don't store text in files, you don't transmit text over the wire or 
through the air -- those actions are done with a lower abstraction, that of bytes.

You're framework may allow you to add a string, but under the covers it's converting to bytes -- at which point is up to 
the framework.

--
~Ethan~

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Python 3.5, bytes, and %-interpolation  (aka PEP 461) Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-02-24 11:54 -0800
  Re: Python 3.5, bytes, and %-interpolation  (aka PEP 461) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-02-24 22:46 +0200
    Re: Python 3.5, bytes, and %-interpolation  (aka PEP 461) random832@fastmail.us - 2014-02-24 16:04 -0500
      Re: Python 3.5, bytes, and %-interpolation  (aka PEP 461) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-02-25 00:18 +0200
        Re: Python 3.5, bytes, and %-interpolation  (aka PEP 461) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-02-24 23:55 +0000
          Re: Python 3.5, bytes, and %-interpolation  (aka PEP 461) wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-02-25 00:07 -0800
            Re: Python 3.5, bytes, and %-interpolation  (aka PEP 461) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-02-25 08:29 +0000
    Re: Python 3.5, bytes, and %-interpolation  (aka PEP 461) Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-02-24 13:53 -0800
  Re: Python 3.5, bytes, and %-interpolation  (aka PEP 461) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-02-24 23:55 +0000
    Re: Python 3.5, bytes, and %-interpolation  (aka PEP 461) Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-02-24 16:10 -0800
      Re: Python 3.5, bytes, and %-interpolation  (aka PEP 461) Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-02-25 07:29 +0000

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