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Re: Decorators not worth the effort

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On 9/14/2012 4:29 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
> On 9/13/2012 10:12 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote:
>> On 13Sep2012 18:58, alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> wrote:
>> | On Sep 14, 3:54 am, Jean-Michel Pichavant <jeanmic...@sequans.com>
>> | wrote:
>> | > I don't like decorators, I think they're not worth the mental effort.
>> |
>> | Because passing a function to a function is a huge cognitive burden?
>
> For parameterized decorators, there is extra cognitive burden. See below.
>
>
>> It is for me when I'm _writing_ the decorator:-) But if I get it right
>> and name it well I find it dramaticly _decreases_ the cognitive burden
>> of the code using the decorator...
>
> For a simple, unparameterized wrapper, the difficulty is entirely in the
> wrapper maker. It must define the final wrapper as a nested function and
> return it*. It is irrelevant whether the wrapper maker is used with
> pre-def decorator syntax or with an explicit post-def call.
>
> *I am here ignoring the option of a class with __call__ method.
>
> For a parameterized wrapper, using decorator syntax requires passing the
> parameter(s) first and the function to be wrapped later. This requires
> currying the wrapper maker with double nesting. The nesting order may
> seem inside-out to some. For most people, this is extra work compared to
> writing a wrapper that accepts the function and parameters together and
> only has a single level of nesting.
>
> In other words
>
> def make_wrapper(func, param):
>      def wrapper(*args, **kwds):
>          for i in range(param):
>              func(*args, **kwds)
>      return wrapper
>
> def f(x): print(x)
> f = make_wrapper(f, 2)
> f('simple')
>
> # is simpler, at least for some people, than the following
> # which does essentially the same thing.
>
> def make_outer(param):
>      def make_inner(func):
>          def wrapper(*args, **kwds):
>              for i in range(param):
>                  func(*args, **kwds)
>          return wrapper
>      return make_inner
>
> @make_outer(2)
> def f(x): print(x)
> f('complex')
>
> Is the gain of not repeating the wrapped function name twice in the
> post-def wrapping call, and the gain of knowing the function will be
> wrapped before reading the def, worth the pain of currying the wrapper
> maker?
>


-- 
Terry Jan Reedy

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Re: Python presentations Jean-Michel Pichavant <jeanmichel@sequans.com> - 2012-09-13 19:54 +0200
  Re: Python presentations Alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2012-09-13 18:18 +0000
  Decorators not worth the effort alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2012-09-13 18:58 -0700
    Re: Decorators not worth the effort Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> - 2012-09-14 12:12 +1000
      Re: Decorators not worth the effort alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2012-09-13 20:25 -0700
    Re: Decorators not worth the effort Dieter Maurer <dieter@handshake.de> - 2012-09-14 08:40 +0200
    Re: Decorators not worth the effort Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2012-09-14 16:29 -0400
      Re: Decorators not worth the effort Thomas Rachel <nutznetz-0c1b6768-bfa9-48d5-a470-7603bd3aa915@spamschutz.glglgl.de> - 2012-09-15 09:13 +0200
      Re: Decorators not worth the effort alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2012-09-16 17:38 -0700
    Re: Decorators not worth the effort Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2012-09-14 16:31 -0400
    Re: Decorators not worth the effort Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2012-09-14 16:37 -0400
      Re: Decorators not worth the effort 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2012-09-18 16:47 -0700
      Re: Decorators not worth the effort 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2012-09-18 16:47 -0700
    Re: Decorators not worth the effort Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2012-09-14 16:33 -0400
    Re: Decorators not worth the effort Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-09-14 15:16 -0600
      Re: Decorators not worth the effort Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-09-14 23:39 +0000
        Re: Decorators not worth the effort 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2012-09-15 02:45 -0700
          Re: Decorators not worth the effort Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> - 2012-09-15 06:04 -0400
            Re: Decorators not worth the effort 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2012-09-15 07:18 -0700
              Re: Decorators not worth the effort Thomas Rachel <nutznetz-0c1b6768-bfa9-48d5-a470-7603bd3aa915@spamschutz.glglgl.de> - 2012-09-18 14:16 +0200
            Re: Decorators not worth the effort 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2012-09-15 07:18 -0700
    Re: Decorators not worth the effort Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> - 2012-09-14 23:42 -0400
    Re: Decorators not worth the effort "Dieter Maurer" <dieter@handshake.de> - 2012-09-15 08:31 +0200

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