Re: Do I need license to release the Python version of old BASIC games?

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On 21/06/2015 22:52, C.D. Reimer wrote:
>
>
> On 6/21/2015 1:58 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>> Converting BASIC games to Python results in derived works, which are
>> under the original copyright of the BASIC games.
>>
>>  From the given link:
>>
>>     BASIC Computer Games is copyright © 1978 by David H. Ahl, and is
>>     posted onwww.atariarchives.org  with permission. Do not redistribute,
>>     mirror, or copy this online book.
>>
>> So a license from David H. Ahl is required before publishing Python
>> translations.
>
> The copyright applies to the book ("Do not redistribute, mirror, or copy
> this *online book*.") and any derivative work is based on the book.
> Using the video output from the BASIC games in the book could fall
> underneath the fair use provision, which allows me to use a small
> portion of the book without infringing on the copyright. I'm not
> publishing a book. I just want to put my code on a website as an
> educational example of what I did to convert a spaghetti language into a
> modern scripting language.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris R.
>

Regarding fair use I suppose it depends on which country you're (plural) 
in.  From 
http://www.copyrightservice.co.uk/copyright/p22_derivative_works.en.htm

<quote>
Can I claim that my copy is fair use/fair dealing, or de minimis?
Unless your activities are explicitly allowed under law, there is no 
solid legal footing for such a claim.
</quote>

Having said that I agree with Michael Torrie's earlier comments so I 
suggest you get on with it, noting at the same time that my legal skills 
are nowhere near as good as my computing skills, which is really saying 
something :)

-- 
My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask
what you can do for our language.

Mark Lawrence

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Re: Do I need license to release the Python version of old BASIC games? Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> - 2015-06-21 22:00 +0200
  Re: Do I need license to release the Python version of old BASIC games? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-06-21 23:58 +0300
    Re: Do I need license to release the Python version of old BASIC games? Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2015-06-21 15:28 -0600
      Re: Do I need license to release the Python version of old BASIC games? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-06-22 01:13 +0300
      Re: Do I need license to release the Python version of old BASIC games? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-06-22 12:27 +1000
        Re: Do I need license to release the Python version of old BASIC games? Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2015-06-21 22:23 -0600
        Re: Do I need license to release the Python version of old BASIC games? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-06-22 14:45 +1000
        Re: Do I need license to release the Python version of old BASIC games? Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> - 2015-06-22 11:20 +0200
    Re: Do I need license to release the Python version of old BASIC games? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-06-22 01:02 +0300
      Re: Do I need license to release the Python version of old BASIC games? "C.D. Reimer" <chris@cdreimer.com> - 2015-06-21 16:54 -0700
        Re: Do I need license to release the Python version of old BASIC games? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-06-22 12:17 +1000
      Re: Do I need license to release the Python version of old BASIC games? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-06-22 12:01 +1000
    Re: Do I need license to release the Python version of old BASIC games? Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2015-06-21 16:01 -0600
    Re: Do I need license to release the Python version of old BASIC games? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-06-21 23:35 +0100

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