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Re: Do I need license to release the Python version of old BASIC games?

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Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com>:

> On 06/21/2015 02:58 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>> Converting BASIC games to Python results in derived works, which are
>> under the original copyright of the BASIC games.
>> 
>> [...]
>
> I disagree. Especially where the resulting python program is not a
> transliteration (which it certainly won't be) of the original BASIC
> programs. As well, these programs implement well-known algorithms and
> games. There are only so many ways to implement certain algorithms,
> and each implementation is going to be closely similar. The games and
> algorithms in his BASIC programs are by no means original or not
> well-known and well-discussed.

The court will have to decide if the Python version is a
reimplementation or a more or less direct translation of the original.

> Also the quoted copyright notice is for the entire work, which is to say
> the book.  Chris is in no way reproducing the guy's text in whole or in
> part--I note that the notice says nothing about fair use.

Fair use is not granted.

   In United States copyright law, fair use is a doctrine that permits
   limited use of copyrighted material without acquiring permission from
   the rights holders.

   <URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use>

Again, whether a fair use defense applies in this case is for the courts
to decide. My guess is it wouldn't apply here.


Marko

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Re: Do I need license to release the Python version of old BASIC games? Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> - 2015-06-21 22:00 +0200
  Re: Do I need license to release the Python version of old BASIC games? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-06-21 23:58 +0300
    Re: Do I need license to release the Python version of old BASIC games? Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2015-06-21 15:28 -0600
      Re: Do I need license to release the Python version of old BASIC games? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-06-22 01:13 +0300
      Re: Do I need license to release the Python version of old BASIC games? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-06-22 12:27 +1000
        Re: Do I need license to release the Python version of old BASIC games? Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2015-06-21 22:23 -0600
        Re: Do I need license to release the Python version of old BASIC games? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-06-22 14:45 +1000
        Re: Do I need license to release the Python version of old BASIC games? Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> - 2015-06-22 11:20 +0200
    Re: Do I need license to release the Python version of old BASIC games? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-06-22 01:02 +0300
      Re: Do I need license to release the Python version of old BASIC games? "C.D. Reimer" <chris@cdreimer.com> - 2015-06-21 16:54 -0700
        Re: Do I need license to release the Python version of old BASIC games? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-06-22 12:17 +1000
      Re: Do I need license to release the Python version of old BASIC games? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-06-22 12:01 +1000
    Re: Do I need license to release the Python version of old BASIC games? Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2015-06-21 16:01 -0600
    Re: Do I need license to release the Python version of old BASIC games? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-06-21 23:35 +0100

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