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Re: Python 3.x adoption

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On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 6:04 AM, Travis Griggs <travisgriggs@gmail.com> wrote:
> I’ve had a bunch of interns around me lately though, wanting to get into python, and this is where I find the momentum really breaks down. If newcomers go to take an online course in python, they might try MIT’s Open Courseware (who doesn’t want to learn from the illustrious MIT after all?). They’ll be taught Python 2, not 3.
>

Courses are inherently laggy. I don't know how long it takes to write
a course, get it approved, and then advertise it so you get some
students, but I suspect it's a good while. I'd say that it's only
since 3.3 (some would argue 3.2, others 3.4) that Py3 has been the
clear winner in the new-application debate; give it a few more years
before courses start teaching Py3. Of course, anyone who comes to a
rapid communication venue like python-list can learn the state of the
art (in the original sense), but if you want a degree in Comp Sci and
you have to take X courses to get it, chances are you'll learn Py2
along the way.

ChrisA

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  Re: Python 3.x adoption Skip Montanaro <skip@pobox.com> - 2014-01-14 13:38 -0600
    Re: Python 3.x adoption beliavsky@aol.com - 2014-01-17 14:16 -0800
      Re: Python 3.x adoption Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-01-17 22:51 +0000
      Re: Python 3.x adoption Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-01-17 18:03 -0500
        Re: Python 3.x adoption beliavsky@aol.com - 2014-01-18 05:27 -0800
          Re: Python 3.x adoption Travis Griggs <travisgriggs@gmail.com> - 2014-01-21 11:04 -0800
          Re: Python 3.x adoption Chris Kaynor <ckaynor@zindagigames.com> - 2014-01-21 11:15 -0800
          Re: Python 3.x adoption Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-01-22 06:25 +1100
      Re: Python 3.x adoption MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2014-01-17 23:12 +0000
      Re: Python 3.x adoption Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-01-18 10:17 +1100
      Re: Python 3.x adoption Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-01-17 20:01 -0500
      Re: Python 3.x adoption Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-01-18 12:18 +1100
      Re: Python 3.x adoption Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-01-18 12:27 +1100
  Re: Python 3.x adoption Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-01-15 06:44 +1100
  Re: Python 3.x adoption Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-01-15 02:55 +0000
    Re: Python 3.x adoption MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2014-01-15 03:30 +0000
  Re: Python 3.x adoption Travis Griggs <travisgriggs@gmail.com> - 2014-01-15 07:43 -0800
    Re: Python 3.x adoption Piet van Oostrum <piet@vanoostrum.org> - 2014-01-16 13:57 +0100
  Re: Python 3.x adoption Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-01-16 03:14 +1100
  Re: Python 3.x adoption Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-01-15 16:46 +0000
  Re: Python 3.x adoption Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-01-16 04:08 +1100
  Re: Python 3.x adoption Christopher Welborn <cjwelborn@live.com> - 2014-01-15 11:37 -0600
  Re: Python 3.x adoption Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-01-17 15:27 +0000
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      Re: Python 3.x adoption Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-01-17 20:02 +0000
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    Re: Python 3.x adoption Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-01-17 16:21 +0000
    Re: Python 3.x adoption Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-01-17 17:10 -0500

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