Re: PEP8 79 char max

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From	Joshua Landau <joshua@landau.ws>
Date	2013-07-31 07:16 +0100
Subject	Re: PEP8 79 char max
Newsgroups	comp.lang.python
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On 30 July 2013 18:52, Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 2013-07-30, Joshua Landau <joshua@landau.ws> wrote:
> > On 30 July 2013 18:08, Vito De Tullio <vito.detullio@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Ed Leafe wrote:
> >>
> >> > I had read about a developer who switched to using proportional fonts
> for
> >> > coding, and somewhat skeptically, tried it out. After a day or so it
> >> > stopped looking strange, and after a week it seemed so much easier to
> >> > read.
> >>
> >> By my (limited) experience with proportional fonts, they can be useful
> only
> >> with something like elastic tabstops[0]. But, as a general rule, I
> simply
> >> found more "squared" to just use a fixed-width font.
> >>
> >
> > Not if you give up on the whole "aligning" thing.
>
> You don't think that Python code at a given level should all be
> aligned?  I find it very helpful when a given block of code is
> visually left-aligned.
>

I don't understand what you mean. My coding practices almost never require
anything more than the initial indentation to have things line up -- any
other form of alignment is in my opinion overrated. Maybe it helps you, but
personally I don't like it.

As I've been saying, the whole thing is personal preference and
proportional fonts for some people, such as I, are fine. Except in that
there are no good proportional fonts at 8px :(.

To explain, I tend to take the "HTML" form of alignment by wrapping:

open stuff stuff stuff close

to

open
    stuff
    stuff
    stuff
close

and thus everything important lines up anyway. Extra non-indentation
indents are a burden for me and look worse (again, personal preference).

I also find intializers for tables of data to be much more easily read
> and maintained if the columns can be aligned.
>

Why do you have tables in your Python code?

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Re: PEP8 79 char max Devyn Collier Johnson <devyncjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-07-29 16:24 -0400
  Re: PEP8 79 char max Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-07-29 21:42 +0000
    Re: PEP8 79 char max Devyn Collier Johnson <devyncjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-07-29 18:30 -0400
    Re: PEP8 79 char max Ed Leafe <ed@leafe.com> - 2013-07-29 17:54 -0500
    Re: PEP8 79 char max Vito De Tullio <vito.detullio@gmail.com> - 2013-07-30 19:08 +0200
    Re: PEP8 79 char max Joshua Landau <joshua@landau.ws> - 2013-07-30 18:42 +0100
      Re: PEP8 79 char max Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-30 17:52 +0000
        Re: PEP8 79 char max Joshua Landau <joshua@landau.ws> - 2013-07-31 07:16 +0100
        Re: PEP8 79 char max Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2013-07-31 05:56 -0500
          Re: PEP8 79 char max Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2013-07-31 13:02 +0000
            Re: PEP8 79 char max Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-31 16:35 +0000
              Re: PEP8 79 char max Marcelo MD <lists.md@gmail.com> - 2013-07-31 14:45 -0300
                Re: PEP8 79 char max Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2013-07-31 17:59 +0000
                Re: PEP8 79 char max Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-31 18:16 +0000
                Re: PEP8 79 char max Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2013-07-31 18:37 +0000
                Re: PEP8 79 char max Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-31 18:56 +0000
                Re: PEP8 79 char max Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2013-07-31 19:25 +0000
                RE: PEP8 79 char max "Prasad, Ramit" <ramit.prasad@jpmorgan.com.dmarc.invalid> - 2013-07-31 18:33 +0000
              Re: PEP8 79 char max Skip Montanaro <skip@pobox.com> - 2013-07-31 13:05 -0500
          Re: PEP8 79 char max Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-31 16:32 +0000
            Re: PEP8 79 char max Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2013-07-31 13:19 -0500
            Re: PEP8 79 char max Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2013-07-31 13:24 -0500
            Re: PEP8 79 char max Joshua Landau <joshua@landau.ws> - 2013-08-01 18:21 +0100
              Re: PEP8 79 char max Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-08-01 19:03 +0000
              Re: PEP8 79 char max Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-08-01 19:29 +0000
                Re: PEP8 79 char max Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-08-01 19:53 +0000
                Re: PEP8 79 char max Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-08-01 20:39 -0400
                Re: PEP8 79 char max Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-08-02 13:58 +0000
        Re: PEP8 79 char max Wayne Werner <wayne@waynewerner.com> - 2013-08-03 06:23 -0500
          Re: PEP8 79 char max Metallicow <metaliobovinus@gmail.com> - 2013-09-05 15:21 -0700
            Re: PEP8 79 char max Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2013-09-05 21:47 -0400
              Re: PEP8 79 char max Metallicow <metaliobovinus@gmail.com> - 2013-09-05 19:59 -0700
                Re: PEP8 79 char max Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-09-06 04:01 +0000
                Re: PEP8 79 char max Metallicow <metaliobovinus@gmail.com> - 2013-09-05 21:21 -0700
                Re: PEP8 79 char max Metallicow <metaliobovinus@gmail.com> - 2013-09-06 06:34 -0700
                Re: PEP8 79 char max Metallicow <metaliobovinus@gmail.com> - 2013-09-06 09:07 -0700
                Re: PEP8 79 char max Skip Montanaro <skip@pobox.com> - 2013-09-06 05:09 -0500
                Re: PEP8 79 char max Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2013-09-06 05:35 -0500
                Re: PEP8 79 char max Tim Delaney <timothy.c.delaney@gmail.com> - 2013-09-06 20:47 +1000
                Re: PEP8 79 char max Metallicow <metaliobovinus@gmail.com> - 2013-09-06 05:24 -0700
                Re: PEP8 79 char max Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-09-06 19:22 -0400
                Re: PEP8 79 char max Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2013-09-06 07:56 -0500
                Re: PEP8 79 char max Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2013-09-06 13:12 +0000
            Re: PEP8 79 char max Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-09-06 03:40 +0000
              Re: PEP8 79 char max Metallicow <metaliobovinus@gmail.com> - 2013-09-05 21:19 -0700
              Re: PEP8 79 char max Serhiy Storchaka <storchaka@gmail.com> - 2013-09-07 21:00 +0300
    Re: PEP8 79 char max Vito De Tullio <vito.detullio@gmail.com> - 2013-07-30 20:00 +0200

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