Re: PEP8 79 char max

From	Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.python
Subject	Re: PEP8 79 char max
Date	2013-07-31 18:56 +0000
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On 2013-07-31, Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> wrote:
> On 2013-07-31, Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2013-07-31, Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> wrote:
>>> Besides, after studying The Pragmatic Programmer I removed
>>> nearly all the tables from my code and reference them (usually
>>> with csv module) instead.
>>
>> I don't understand.  That just moves them to a different file
>> -- doesn't it?  You've still got to deal with editing a large
>> table of data (for example when I want to add instructions to
>> your assembler).
>
> Yes, but it is much easier to manipulate and view. I often still
> edit the tables with Vim, but when I just want to view them I can
> open them with Excel and get a very attractive display or
> printout with minimal effort.

If you're good at Excel.  I use a spreadsheet at most a few times a
year, and it has been many years since I've used Excel.  I find that
doing _anything_ with Excel generally involves at least an hour of
hairpulling and swearing.  Libreoffice isn't much better.

> If it turns out I need to convert the table to some new format,
> tools are abundant.

True.

> A couple of big wins:
>
> It turned out later that some other entity needed the same data.

It would save the two seconds it takes to extract the lines from the
Python file.

> It has allowed me to add functionality to my program without even
> editing the program.

Now you're playing with semantics.  If I have a bunch of lines
containing values separated by commas, and I'm editting them, then it
makes no difference to me which file they're in -- I'm still adding
functionality be editing a table of data.

> Wouldn't be cool to add a new instruction by to my assembler,
> including documentation, merely by editing a csv file? (I admit
> that would need quite a bit of engineering to work, but it would
> be cool.)

Yes, that's cool, and that's pretty much how it works.  Those csv
lines just happen to be in the same file as the rest of the assembler
source rather than in a second file.

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Re: PEP8 79 char max Devyn Collier Johnson <devyncjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-07-29 16:24 -0400
  Re: PEP8 79 char max Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-07-29 21:42 +0000
    Re: PEP8 79 char max Devyn Collier Johnson <devyncjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-07-29 18:30 -0400
    Re: PEP8 79 char max Ed Leafe <ed@leafe.com> - 2013-07-29 17:54 -0500
    Re: PEP8 79 char max Vito De Tullio <vito.detullio@gmail.com> - 2013-07-30 19:08 +0200
    Re: PEP8 79 char max Joshua Landau <joshua@landau.ws> - 2013-07-30 18:42 +0100
      Re: PEP8 79 char max Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-30 17:52 +0000
        Re: PEP8 79 char max Joshua Landau <joshua@landau.ws> - 2013-07-31 07:16 +0100
        Re: PEP8 79 char max Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2013-07-31 05:56 -0500
          Re: PEP8 79 char max Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2013-07-31 13:02 +0000
            Re: PEP8 79 char max Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-31 16:35 +0000
              Re: PEP8 79 char max Marcelo MD <lists.md@gmail.com> - 2013-07-31 14:45 -0300
                Re: PEP8 79 char max Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2013-07-31 17:59 +0000
                Re: PEP8 79 char max Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-31 18:16 +0000
                Re: PEP8 79 char max Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2013-07-31 18:37 +0000
                Re: PEP8 79 char max Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-31 18:56 +0000
                Re: PEP8 79 char max Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2013-07-31 19:25 +0000
                RE: PEP8 79 char max "Prasad, Ramit" <ramit.prasad@jpmorgan.com.dmarc.invalid> - 2013-07-31 18:33 +0000
              Re: PEP8 79 char max Skip Montanaro <skip@pobox.com> - 2013-07-31 13:05 -0500
          Re: PEP8 79 char max Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-31 16:32 +0000
            Re: PEP8 79 char max Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2013-07-31 13:19 -0500
            Re: PEP8 79 char max Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2013-07-31 13:24 -0500
            Re: PEP8 79 char max Joshua Landau <joshua@landau.ws> - 2013-08-01 18:21 +0100
              Re: PEP8 79 char max Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-08-01 19:03 +0000
              Re: PEP8 79 char max Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-08-01 19:29 +0000
                Re: PEP8 79 char max Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-08-01 19:53 +0000
                Re: PEP8 79 char max Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-08-01 20:39 -0400
                Re: PEP8 79 char max Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-08-02 13:58 +0000
        Re: PEP8 79 char max Wayne Werner <wayne@waynewerner.com> - 2013-08-03 06:23 -0500
          Re: PEP8 79 char max Metallicow <metaliobovinus@gmail.com> - 2013-09-05 15:21 -0700
            Re: PEP8 79 char max Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2013-09-05 21:47 -0400
              Re: PEP8 79 char max Metallicow <metaliobovinus@gmail.com> - 2013-09-05 19:59 -0700
                Re: PEP8 79 char max Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-09-06 04:01 +0000
                Re: PEP8 79 char max Metallicow <metaliobovinus@gmail.com> - 2013-09-05 21:21 -0700
                Re: PEP8 79 char max Metallicow <metaliobovinus@gmail.com> - 2013-09-06 06:34 -0700
                Re: PEP8 79 char max Metallicow <metaliobovinus@gmail.com> - 2013-09-06 09:07 -0700
                Re: PEP8 79 char max Skip Montanaro <skip@pobox.com> - 2013-09-06 05:09 -0500
                Re: PEP8 79 char max Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2013-09-06 05:35 -0500
                Re: PEP8 79 char max Tim Delaney <timothy.c.delaney@gmail.com> - 2013-09-06 20:47 +1000
                Re: PEP8 79 char max Metallicow <metaliobovinus@gmail.com> - 2013-09-06 05:24 -0700
                Re: PEP8 79 char max Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-09-06 19:22 -0400
                Re: PEP8 79 char max Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2013-09-06 07:56 -0500
                Re: PEP8 79 char max Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2013-09-06 13:12 +0000
            Re: PEP8 79 char max Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-09-06 03:40 +0000
              Re: PEP8 79 char max Metallicow <metaliobovinus@gmail.com> - 2013-09-05 21:19 -0700
              Re: PEP8 79 char max Serhiy Storchaka <storchaka@gmail.com> - 2013-09-07 21:00 +0300
    Re: PEP8 79 char max Vito De Tullio <vito.detullio@gmail.com> - 2013-07-30 20:00 +0200

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