Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]

Groups > comp.lang.python > #50872

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

Path csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!xlned.com!feeder3.xlned.com!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail
Return-Path <torriem@gmail.com>
X-Original-To python-list@python.org
Delivered-To python-list@mail.python.org
X-Spam-Status OK 0.078
X-Spam-Evidence '*H*': 0.85; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'subject:code': 0.07; 'pointless': 0.09; 'translation': 0.12; 'useful,': 0.14; 'before.': 0.16; 'counters,': 0.16; 'from:addr:torriem': 0.16; 'from:name:michael torrie': 0.16; 'itself,': 0.16; 'magic': 0.16; 'peer-to-peer': 0.16; 'silly': 0.16; 'subject: \n ': 0.16; 'subject:Not': 0.16; 'subject:start': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'code.': 0.18; "hasn't": 0.19; 'subject:project': 0.19; 'programming': 0.22; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.23; 'builder': 0.24; 'server.': 0.24; 'tables': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'cool,': 0.31; 'probably': 0.32; 'there,': 0.34; 'could': 0.34; 'subject: (': 0.35; 'point.': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'building': 0.35; 'done,': 0.36; 'done': 0.36; 'doing': 0.36; 'message-id:@gmail.com': 0.38; 'somebody': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'university': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'consists': 0.60; 'tell': 0.60; 'simple': 0.61; 'times': 0.62; 'address': 0.63; 'kind': 0.63; 'central': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'world': 0.66; 'design.': 0.68; 'beside': 0.84; 'compilers,': 0.84; 'dozens': 0.84; 'firewalls': 0.84; "it'd": 0.84; 'subject:before': 0.84; 'subject:system': 0.84; 'undergrad': 0.84; 'discovering': 0.91; 'subject:chat': 0.93
X-Virus-Scanned amavisd-new at torriefamily.org
Date Thu, 18 Jul 2013 16:34:39 -0600
From Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com>
User-Agent Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0.12) Gecko/20130105 Thunderbird/10.0.12
MIME-Version 1.0
To python-list@python.org
Subject Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)
References <1f3e15e8-bbd3-457c-85f4-c5f251b3e744@googlegroups.com> <op.w0ekovhblxvdjb@garnet>
In-Reply-To <op.w0ekovhblxvdjb@garnet>
Content-Type text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding 7bit
X-BeenThere python-list@python.org
X-Mailman-Version 2.1.15
Precedence list
List-Id General discussion list for the Python programming language <python-list.python.org>
List-Unsubscribe <http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-list>, <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/>
List-Post <mailto:python-list@python.org>
List-Help <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list>, <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=subscribe>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
Message-ID <mailman.4847.1374186891.3114.python-list@python.org> (permalink)
Lines 20
NNTP-Posting-Host 2001:888:2000:d::a6
X-Trace 1374186891 news.xs4all.nl 15932 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:45786
X-Complaints-To abuse@xs4all.nl
Xref csiph.com comp.lang.python:50872

Show key headers only | View raw

On 07/17/2013 11:39 PM, Eric S. Johansson wrote:
> Not discourage you but this is a "been there, done that" kind of project.  
> You could learn more from reading somebody else is code. What hasn't been  
> done, and this would be very cool, is a chat program that works  
> peer-to-peer with no central server. To do this, you would probably need  
> to know about distributed hash tables and methods of piercing address  
> translation firewalls (think UDP).

University CS curricula across the world would disagree with your
assessment of the usefulness of "been there, done that."  Indeed that's
how you learn by doing simple things that have been done many times
before, and discovering the magic of programming and software design.
My uni's CS undergrad degree consists of dozens of contrived projects
that have been done before.  Web crawlers, compilers, expert systems,
chat systems, word counters, etc.

And that's the same way with all fields of endeavor.  Indeed it'd be
silly to tell an enthused hobby builder that building a shed is
pointless as it's been done before.  The shed itself, which would
arguably be useful, is beside the point.

Back to comp.lang.python | Previous | Next — Previous in thread | Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread

Thread

What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Aseem Bansal <asmbansal2@gmail.com> - 2013-07-17 21:36 -0700
  Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) vikash agrawal <vikashagrawal1990@gmail.com> - 2013-07-18 10:22 +0530
    Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Aseem Bansal <asmbansal2@gmail.com> - 2013-07-17 23:11 -0700
      Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-18 16:25 +1000
        Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Aseem Bansal <asmbansal2@gmail.com> - 2013-07-17 23:36 -0700
          Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Andrew Berg <robotsondrugs@gmail.com> - 2013-07-18 01:49 -0500
            Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Aseem Bansal <asmbansal2@gmail.com> - 2013-07-18 00:05 -0700
              Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-18 17:13 +1000
                Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Aseem Bansal <asmbansal2@gmail.com> - 2013-07-18 00:29 -0700
                Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-18 17:34 +1000
                Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Aseem Bansal <asmbansal2@gmail.com> - 2013-07-18 00:48 -0700
                Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-18 17:52 +1000
                Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Aseem Bansal <asmbansal2@gmail.com> - 2013-07-18 01:10 -0700
                Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-18 18:37 +1000
                Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) aseem bansal <aseembansal@ymail.com> - 2013-07-18 01:04 -0700
                Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2013-07-18 13:04 -0400
                Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Serhiy Storchaka <storchaka@gmail.com> - 2013-07-18 20:55 +0300
                Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-18 18:02 +0000
                Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Owen Marshall <o@owenmarshall.invalid> - 2013-07-18 18:19 +0000
                Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2013-07-18 16:40 -0600
                Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Owen Marshall <o@owenmarshall.invalid> - 2013-07-19 00:54 +0000
          Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-18 16:49 +1000
        Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-18 13:00 +0000
        Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2013-07-19 11:25 +0000
          Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-19 21:56 +1000
  Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) "Eric S. Johansson" <esj@harvee.org> - 2013-07-18 01:39 -0400
    Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Aseem Bansal <asmbansal2@gmail.com> - 2013-07-17 22:50 -0700
  Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-18 16:15 +1000
  Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2013-07-18 16:34 -0600
  Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Jake Angulo <jake.angulo@gmail.com> - 2013-07-19 17:10 +1000
  Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-19 17:17 +1000

csiph-web