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Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

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Date 2013-07-18 16:25 +1000
Subject Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)
From Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
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On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Aseem Bansal <asmbansal2@gmail.com> wrote:
> @vikash agrawal
>
> About GUI I discussed it at https://groups.google.com/forum/#!starred/comp.lang.python/M-Dy2pyWRfM and I am thinking about using PySide 1.2 for clients of chat system. I think I'll need downloadable clients if I want to make something like google talk. Then I'll need to implement server side programming also. I think google app engine would be suitable for this as it is going to be always online.

Hrm. Rather than pointing people to Google Groups, which a number here
(and not unreasonably) detest, you may want to link to the python-list
archive:

http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2013-July/thread.html#651359

> About using web frameworks, in the above scenario when there isn't an online website for chat would I need web frameworks? I am confused about this. Can server side programming be done in Python or by using a web framework only?

You can certainly do your server-side programming directly in Python;
in fact, I recommend it for this task. There's no reason to use HTTP,
much less a web framework (which usually consists of a structured way
to build HTML pages, plus a bunch of routing and stuff, none of which
you need). All you need is a simple structure for separating one
message from another. I would recommend either going MUD/TELNET style
and ending each message with a newline, or prefixing each message with
its length in octets. Both ways work very nicely; newline-termination
allows you to use a MUD client for debugging, which I find very
convenient (full disclosure: I am the author of multiple MUD clients,
including one that's zero-dollar and another that's free).

ChrisA

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What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Aseem Bansal <asmbansal2@gmail.com> - 2013-07-17 21:36 -0700
  Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) vikash agrawal <vikashagrawal1990@gmail.com> - 2013-07-18 10:22 +0530
    Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Aseem Bansal <asmbansal2@gmail.com> - 2013-07-17 23:11 -0700
      Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-18 16:25 +1000
        Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Aseem Bansal <asmbansal2@gmail.com> - 2013-07-17 23:36 -0700
          Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Andrew Berg <robotsondrugs@gmail.com> - 2013-07-18 01:49 -0500
            Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Aseem Bansal <asmbansal2@gmail.com> - 2013-07-18 00:05 -0700
              Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-18 17:13 +1000
                Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Aseem Bansal <asmbansal2@gmail.com> - 2013-07-18 00:29 -0700
                Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-18 17:34 +1000
                Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Aseem Bansal <asmbansal2@gmail.com> - 2013-07-18 00:48 -0700
                Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-18 17:52 +1000
                Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Aseem Bansal <asmbansal2@gmail.com> - 2013-07-18 01:10 -0700
                Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-18 18:37 +1000
                Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) aseem bansal <aseembansal@ymail.com> - 2013-07-18 01:04 -0700
                Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2013-07-18 13:04 -0400
                Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Serhiy Storchaka <storchaka@gmail.com> - 2013-07-18 20:55 +0300
                Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-18 18:02 +0000
                Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Owen Marshall <o@owenmarshall.invalid> - 2013-07-18 18:19 +0000
                Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2013-07-18 16:40 -0600
                Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Owen Marshall <o@owenmarshall.invalid> - 2013-07-19 00:54 +0000
          Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-18 16:49 +1000
        Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-18 13:00 +0000
        Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2013-07-19 11:25 +0000
          Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-19 21:56 +1000
  Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) "Eric S. Johansson" <esj@harvee.org> - 2013-07-18 01:39 -0400
    Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Aseem Bansal <asmbansal2@gmail.com> - 2013-07-17 22:50 -0700
  Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-18 16:15 +1000
  Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2013-07-18 16:34 -0600
  Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Jake Angulo <jake.angulo@gmail.com> - 2013-07-19 17:10 +1000
  Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-19 17:17 +1000

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