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Re: Newbie question. Are those different objects ?

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On Dec 20, 2013, at 8:00 AM, Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> A good point.  Shall I write a PEP asking for a language change which requires that that stupid = sign is replaced by a keyword reading something like thenameonthelefthandsideisassignedtheobjectontherighthandside ?

Or a symbol like :=. As a former Smalltalker, I still miss this as the assignment operator, and the “gets” verbiage that went along with it. One said:

x := 4

as in “x gets 4”

I always got a kick out of the following paragraph from http://james-iry.blogspot.com/2009/05/brief-incomplete-and-mostly-wrong.html.

"1970 - Niklaus Wirth creates Pascal, a procedural language. Critics immediately denounce Pascal because it uses "x := x + y" syntax instead of the more familiar C-like "x = x + y". This criticism happens in spite of the fact that C has not yet been invented."

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Newbie question. Are those different objects ? dec135@msn.com - 2013-12-20 07:16 -0800
  Re: Newbie question. Are those different objects ? random832@fastmail.us - 2013-12-20 10:24 -0500
  Re: Newbie question. Are those different objects ? rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-12-20 07:34 -0800
    Re: Newbie question. Are those different objects ? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-12-20 16:00 +0000
      Re: Newbie question. Are those different objects ? rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-12-20 09:10 -0800
        Re: Newbie question. Are those different objects ? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-12-20 17:29 +0000
        Re: Newbie question. Are those different objects ? 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@gmail.com> - 2013-12-20 09:59 -0800
        Re: Newbie question. Are those different objects ? Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2013-12-21 10:56 +1300
          Re: Newbie question. Are those different objects ? Duncan Booth <duncan.booth@invalid.invalid> - 2013-12-23 08:19 +0000
      Re: Newbie question. Are those different objects ? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-12-21 12:58 +0000
        Re: Newbie question. Are those different objects ? Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-12-21 11:54 -0500
        Re: Newbie question. Are those different objects ? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-12-22 05:39 +1100
        Re: Newbie question. Are those different objects ? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-12-21 19:17 +0000
      Re: Newbie question. Are those different objects ? alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2013-12-23 11:31 +1000
    Re: Newbie question. Are those different objects ? Travis Griggs <travisgriggs@gmail.com> - 2013-12-20 10:24 -0800
  Re: Newbie question. Are those different objects ? bob gailer <bgailer@gmail.com> - 2013-12-20 12:02 -0500
  Re: Newbie question. Are those different objects ? rurpy@yahoo.com - 2013-12-20 10:06 -0800
  Re: Newbie question. Are those different objects ? Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2013-12-20 16:56 -0500
  Re: Newbie question. Are those different objects ? Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2013-12-21 14:08 -0500

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