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On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 4:36 AM, Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> wrote:

> While I started with vi just slightly before encountering emacs
> (mid-to-late 1980s, both), my main trouble with choosing emacs was
> the heavy use of control keys. Vi's modal nature means that in
> "edit" mode, all the keystrokes are available as edit controls.
> Emacs' modeless nature means that all the edit controls must be
> control-this and meta/escape-that.
>
> For this reason, I often expand EMACS as Escape Meta Alt Control Shift.
>
>
Yes...
The fact that rms has crippling RSI should indicate that emacs' ergonomics
is not right.


> I'm a vi user. Once I mastered "hit ESC by reflex when you pause
> typing an insert" I was never confused above which mode I was in.
>
> And now my fingers know vi.
>
>
Yes...
vi: (n) A program that has two modes, one in which it beeps and the other
in which it corrupts your file :-)


>  Cheers,
> --
> Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au>
>
> A novice of the temple once approached the Chief Priest with a question.
>
>   "Master, does Emacs have the Buddha nature?" the novice asked.
>
>   The Chief Priest had been in the temple for many years and could be
> relied
>   upon to know these things.  He thought for several minutes before
> replying.
>
>   "I don't see why not.  It's got bloody well everything else."
>
>   With that, the Chief Priest went to lunch.  The novice suddenly achieved
> enlightenment, several years later.
>
> Commentary:
>
>         His Master is kind,
>         Answering his FAQ quickly,
>         With thought and sarcasm.
>
>
Heard somewhere: Emacs is my operating system and linux is its device
driver.

No I dont belong to that camp -- Actually I am quite dissatisfied with
emacs nowadays... Keep trying eclipse and getting repulsed by the gorilla.

Philosophy being this: What functional programming is to program-semantics,
fast-branching (as in git) is to program-source[1].  To complete the
trinity, one needs semi-automated refactoring.
The first I can do in my sleep; the second still noob-status, the third yet
to start!

[1] Not necessarily source-code See
http://blog.vctr.me/posts/why-you-should-learn-git.html

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Important features for editors cutems93 <ms2597@cornell.edu> - 2013-07-04 00:32 -0700
  Re: Important features for editors Νίκος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-04 10:59 +0300
    Re: Important features for editors Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-07-04 04:34 -0400
      Re: Important features for editors Νίκος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-04 12:14 +0300
        Re: Important features for editors Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-04 20:03 +1000
        Re: Important features for editors Robert Kern <robert.kern@gmail.com> - 2013-07-04 12:01 +0100
          Re: Important features for editors Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-07-04 15:48 +0000
        Re: Important features for editors Steve Simmons <square.steve@gmail.com> - 2013-07-04 14:33 +0100
          Re: Important features for editors Νίκος Γκρ33κ <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-04 16:36 +0300
            Re: Important features for editors feedthetroll@gmx.de - 2013-07-04 07:03 -0700
          Re: Important features for editors rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-07-04 07:02 -0700
            Re: Important features for editors Steve Simmons <square.steve@gmail.com> - 2013-07-04 16:35 +0100
            Re: Important features for editors Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-07-04 15:46 +0000
        Re: Important features for editors Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-04 18:40 +0000
          Re: Important features for editors Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-04 21:52 +0300
            Re: Important features for editors Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-05 07:59 +1000
            Re: Important features for editors Jason Swails <jason.swails@gmail.com> - 2013-07-04 17:59 -0400
            Re: Important features for editors Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2013-07-05 03:25 -0400
            Re: Important features for editors Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-05 14:11 +0000
    Re: Important features for editors Νίκος Gr33k <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-05 10:41 +0300
      Re: Important features for editors feedthetroll@gmx.de - 2013-07-05 01:28 -0700
  Re: Important features for editors Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-07-04 05:02 -0400
  Re: Important features for editors Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2013-07-04 08:22 -0500
  Re: Important features for editors MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2013-07-04 15:24 +0100
    Re: Important features for editors rurpy@yahoo.com - 2013-07-04 08:56 -0700
      Re: Important features for editors Steve Simmons <square.steve@gmail.com> - 2013-07-04 17:14 +0100
  Re: Important features for editors William Ray Wing <wrw@mac.com> - 2013-07-04 09:42 -0400
  Re: Important features for editors Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2013-07-04 16:03 -0500
  Re: Important features for editors Joshua Landau <joshua.landau.ws@gmail.com> - 2013-07-05 01:38 +0100
    Re: Important features for editors Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-07-04 21:50 -0400
      Re: Important features for editors Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> - 2013-07-05 12:59 +1000
  Re: Important features for editors Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-07-04 21:15 -0400
  Fwd: Important features for editors Göktuğ Kayaalp <goktug.kayaalp@gmail.com> - 2013-07-04 11:07 +0300
    Re: Important features for editors rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-07-05 05:12 -0700
      Re: Important features for editors Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> - 2013-07-06 09:06 +1000
      Re: Important features for editors Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-07-06 08:43 +0530
        Re: Important features for editors Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-07-05 23:25 -0400
          Re: Important features for editors Joshua Landau <joshua.landau.ws@gmail.com> - 2013-07-06 05:35 +0100
            Re: Important features for editors rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-07-05 22:19 -0700
              Re: Important features for editors Joshua Landau <joshua.landau.ws@gmail.com> - 2013-07-06 07:19 +0100
      Re: Important features for editors Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-07-06 13:39 +0530
      Re: Important features for editors "Eric S. Johansson" <esj@harvee.org> - 2013-07-06 02:52 -0400
  Re: Important features for editors jussij@zeusedit.com - 2013-07-07 23:16 -0700
    Re: Important features for editors Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-07-08 06:37 +0000
      Re: Important features for editors Skip Montanaro <skip@pobox.com> - 2013-07-08 05:21 -0500
      Re: Important features for editors Sivaram Neelakantan <nsivaram.net@gmail.com> - 2013-07-08 19:54 +0530
      Re: Important features for editors Skip Montanaro <skip@pobox.com> - 2013-07-08 13:03 -0500

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