Re: Important features for editors

Date	2013-07-05 12:59 +1000
From	Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au>
Subject	Re: Important features for editors
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[ Digressing to tuning remote access. Sorry. - Cameron ]

On 04Jul2013 21:50, Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> wrote:
| Does Sublime have some sort of remote mode?  We've got one guy who loves 
| it, but needs to work on a remote machine (i.e. in AWS).  I got X11 
| working for him (he has a Mac desktop), so he can run Sublime on the AWS 
| Linux box and have it display on his Mac desktop, but that's less than 
| ideal.

It's worth pointing out that, depending on the app, X11 can do a
fair bit of traffic. Particularly with more recent things on "rich"
widget libraries with animation or drag'n'drop, it can be quite
painful because the app's developed on someones local desktop where
latency is negligible.

Sometimes it is worth running a desktop local to the remote machine
(eg using vncserver) and operating it remotely via a viewer (eg a
vnc viewer). Although you're now throwign screen updates around as
bitmaps of some flavour, this can decouple you from vile spinning
progress icons and modal drag'n'drop stuff. (This also insulates
you against network drops; just reconnect the viewer, just like
screen or tmux do for terminals.)

Seamonkey, for example, is like molasses done directly with X11 from
a remote host. It used to be snappy, but widget library bling creep
has made it an exercise in pain.

Another alternative, better still if easy, is to mount the remote
system's files on your local machine and run the editor locally.
Snappy response, your native widget-set/look'n'feel, and saving a
file is normally pretty cheap even remotely; that would normally
be your main remote transaction under this model.

Cheers,
-- 
Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au>

Ninety percent of everything is crud.   - Theodore Sturgeon

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Important features for editors cutems93 <ms2597@cornell.edu> - 2013-07-04 00:32 -0700
  Re: Important features for editors Νίκος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-04 10:59 +0300
    Re: Important features for editors Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-07-04 04:34 -0400
      Re: Important features for editors Νίκος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-04 12:14 +0300
        Re: Important features for editors Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-04 20:03 +1000
        Re: Important features for editors Robert Kern <robert.kern@gmail.com> - 2013-07-04 12:01 +0100
          Re: Important features for editors Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-07-04 15:48 +0000
        Re: Important features for editors Steve Simmons <square.steve@gmail.com> - 2013-07-04 14:33 +0100
          Re: Important features for editors Νίκος Γκρ33κ <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-04 16:36 +0300
            Re: Important features for editors feedthetroll@gmx.de - 2013-07-04 07:03 -0700
          Re: Important features for editors rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-07-04 07:02 -0700
            Re: Important features for editors Steve Simmons <square.steve@gmail.com> - 2013-07-04 16:35 +0100
            Re: Important features for editors Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-07-04 15:46 +0000
        Re: Important features for editors Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-04 18:40 +0000
          Re: Important features for editors Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-04 21:52 +0300
            Re: Important features for editors Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-05 07:59 +1000
            Re: Important features for editors Jason Swails <jason.swails@gmail.com> - 2013-07-04 17:59 -0400
            Re: Important features for editors Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2013-07-05 03:25 -0400
            Re: Important features for editors Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-05 14:11 +0000
    Re: Important features for editors Νίκος Gr33k <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-05 10:41 +0300
      Re: Important features for editors feedthetroll@gmx.de - 2013-07-05 01:28 -0700
  Re: Important features for editors Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-07-04 05:02 -0400
  Re: Important features for editors Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2013-07-04 08:22 -0500
  Re: Important features for editors MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2013-07-04 15:24 +0100
    Re: Important features for editors rurpy@yahoo.com - 2013-07-04 08:56 -0700
      Re: Important features for editors Steve Simmons <square.steve@gmail.com> - 2013-07-04 17:14 +0100
  Re: Important features for editors William Ray Wing <wrw@mac.com> - 2013-07-04 09:42 -0400
  Re: Important features for editors Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2013-07-04 16:03 -0500
  Re: Important features for editors Joshua Landau <joshua.landau.ws@gmail.com> - 2013-07-05 01:38 +0100
    Re: Important features for editors Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-07-04 21:50 -0400
      Re: Important features for editors Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> - 2013-07-05 12:59 +1000
  Re: Important features for editors Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-07-04 21:15 -0400
  Fwd: Important features for editors Göktuğ Kayaalp <goktug.kayaalp@gmail.com> - 2013-07-04 11:07 +0300
    Re: Important features for editors rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-07-05 05:12 -0700
      Re: Important features for editors Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> - 2013-07-06 09:06 +1000
      Re: Important features for editors Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-07-06 08:43 +0530
        Re: Important features for editors Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-07-05 23:25 -0400
          Re: Important features for editors Joshua Landau <joshua.landau.ws@gmail.com> - 2013-07-06 05:35 +0100
            Re: Important features for editors rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-07-05 22:19 -0700
              Re: Important features for editors Joshua Landau <joshua.landau.ws@gmail.com> - 2013-07-06 07:19 +0100
      Re: Important features for editors Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-07-06 13:39 +0530
      Re: Important features for editors "Eric S. Johansson" <esj@harvee.org> - 2013-07-06 02:52 -0400
  Re: Important features for editors jussij@zeusedit.com - 2013-07-07 23:16 -0700
    Re: Important features for editors Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-07-08 06:37 +0000
      Re: Important features for editors Skip Montanaro <skip@pobox.com> - 2013-07-08 05:21 -0500
      Re: Important features for editors Sivaram Neelakantan <nsivaram.net@gmail.com> - 2013-07-08 19:54 +0530
      Re: Important features for editors Skip Montanaro <skip@pobox.com> - 2013-07-08 13:03 -0500

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