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| Date | Mon, 16 Mar 2015 05:05:18 +0530 |
| Subject | Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain |
| From | Kishan Thobhani <thobhanikishan@gmail.com> |
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I believe we push towards accepting new paradigms like python 3. If bugs were found on libraries used in older context were probably because there wasn't a need of particular feature. & that is how eventually a software becomes a legacy. There are times when we might want to re-use this library or legacy software, then it make sense to solve the bug as well as port it to new version. Timeline for anything build on top-of-any-language doesn't necessarily have to cope up with evolving language unless needed. Warm Regards, Kishan Thobhani Jedi Master at Printajoy | Full Stack Engineer at Azoi Inc. W: www.kishanthobhani.com E: thobhanikishan@gmail.com M: +91-972-594-0782 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 4:53 AM, Mario Figueiredo <marfig@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 12:05:21 -0700, John Nagle <nagle@animats.com> > wrote: > > >On 3/14/2015 1:00 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > > > > Some of the bugs I listed are so easy to hit that I suspect those > >packages aren't used much. Those bugs should have been found years > >ago. Fixed, even. I shouldn't be discovering them in 2015. > > > > I appreciate all the effort put in by developers in fixing these > >problems. Python 3 is still a long way from being ready for prime > >time, though. > > > > What do you mean a long way? Is this a scaremongering tactic? Some > little FUD to poison the minds of anyone thinking moving to Python 3? > Or you just chose your words poorly? > > Because 3rd-party packages don't define whether the language is ready > for production or not and the bugs you found on the standard library > shouldn't be much different from other bugs found onPython 2 during > Python 2 prime time. > > What makes you think your anedoctal bugs constitute any sort of > evidence this programming language isn't ready to be used by the > public? > > -- > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list >
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Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain INADA Naoki <songofacandy@gmail.com> - 2015-03-14 07:27 +0900
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Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain INADA Naoki <songofacandy@gmail.com> - 2015-03-15 16:01 +0900
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Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-03-15 19:16 +0000
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Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-03-15 21:05 +0000
Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-03-16 11:25 +1100
Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-03-16 11:38 +1100
Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-03-16 01:07 +0000
Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain Mario Figueiredo <marfig@gmail.com> - 2015-03-16 00:23 +0100
Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2015-03-15 19:43 -0400
Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-03-16 11:00 +1100
Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain Mario Figueiredo <marfig@gmail.com> - 2015-03-16 01:19 +0100
Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain John Nagle <nagle@animats.com> - 2015-03-17 23:37 -0700
Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-03-18 08:41 +0000
Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain Ned Deily <nad@acm.org> - 2015-03-18 02:11 -0700
Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-03-18 21:53 +1100
Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2015-03-18 06:42 -0700
Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2015-03-18 07:23 -0700
Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-18 09:35 -0700
Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-03-20 09:48 +1100
Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain Kishan Thobhani <thobhanikishan@gmail.com> - 2015-03-16 05:05 +0530
Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain Kishan Thobhani <thobhanikishan@gmail.com> - 2015-03-16 05:23 +0530
Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-03-14 09:05 +0000
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