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Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain

From Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain
Date 2015-03-15 21:05 +0000
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On 15/03/2015 20:59, Fetchinson . wrote:
> On 3/15/15, Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 15/03/2015 19:05, John Nagle wrote:
>>> On 3/14/2015 1:00 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>>>> John Nagle <nagle@animats.com>:
>>>>>     I'm approaching the end of converting a large system from Python 2
>>>>> to Python 3. Here's why you don't want to do this.
>>>>
>>>> A nice report, thanks. Shows that the slowness of Python 3 adoption is
>>>> not only social inertia.
>>>> Marko
>>>
>>>       Thanks.
>>>
>>>       Some of the bugs I listed are so easy to hit that I suspect those
>>> packages aren't used much.  Those bugs should have been found years
>>> ago.  Fixed, even.  I shouldn't be discovering them in 2015.
>>>
>>>       I appreciate all the effort put in by developers in fixing these
>>> problems.  Python 3 is still a long way from being ready for prime
>>> time, though.
>>>
>>> 				John Nagle
>>>
>>
>> This https://python3wos.appspot.com/ says differently.
>
> A "package supporting python 3" is not equivalent to a "package not
> introducing new bugs in its python 3 version relative to python 2" and
> is also not equivalent to a "package working without issues on python
> 3".
>
> Cheers,
> Daniel
>
>

So the packages increase their test coverage as the bugs get discovered 
and fixed.  Or are you saying that a mere nine years isn't a long enough 
time period to do an exercise like this?

-- 
My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask
what you can do for our language.

Mark Lawrence

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Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain John Nagle <nagle@animats.com> - 2015-03-13 14:08 -0700
  Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain INADA Naoki <songofacandy@gmail.com> - 2015-03-14 07:27 +0900
    Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain John Nagle <nagle@animats.com> - 2015-03-13 16:01 -0700
      Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain Ned Deily <nad@acm.org> - 2015-03-13 16:14 -0700
      Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-03-14 12:40 +1100
      Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain INADA Naoki <songofacandy@gmail.com> - 2015-03-15 16:01 +0900
        Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2015-03-15 01:11 -0700
  Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-03-14 10:00 +0200
    Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain John Nagle <nagle@animats.com> - 2015-03-15 12:05 -0700
      Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-03-15 19:16 +0000
      Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain "Fetchinson ." <fetchinson@googlemail.com> - 2015-03-15 21:59 +0100
      Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-03-15 21:05 +0000
        Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-03-16 11:25 +1100
          Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-03-16 11:38 +1100
          Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-03-16 01:07 +0000
      Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain Mario Figueiredo <marfig@gmail.com> - 2015-03-16 00:23 +0100
        Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2015-03-15 19:43 -0400
          Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-03-16 11:00 +1100
          Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain Mario Figueiredo <marfig@gmail.com> - 2015-03-16 01:19 +0100
          Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain John Nagle <nagle@animats.com> - 2015-03-17 23:37 -0700
            Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-03-18 08:41 +0000
            Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain Ned Deily <nad@acm.org> - 2015-03-18 02:11 -0700
              Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-03-18 21:53 +1100
                Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2015-03-18 06:42 -0700
                Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2015-03-18 07:23 -0700
                Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-18 09:35 -0700
                Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-03-20 09:48 +1100
        Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain Kishan Thobhani <thobhanikishan@gmail.com> - 2015-03-16 05:05 +0530
        Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain Kishan Thobhani <thobhanikishan@gmail.com> - 2015-03-16 05:23 +0530
  Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-03-14 09:05 +0000

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