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Re: Important features for editors

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On Jul 4, 2013, at 9:22 AM, Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> wrote:

> On 2013-07-04 05:02, Dave Angel wrote:
> [snip an excellent list of things to look for in an editor]
> 
> Also, 
> 
> - the ability to perform changes in bulk, especially across files.
>  Often, this is done with the ability to record/playback macros,
>  though some editors have multiple insertion/edit cursors; others
>  allow for performing a bulk-change command across the entire file
>  or list of files.
> 

To Tim's and Dave's excellent lists let me add one more feature that I find useful:
  the ability to bulk-search through all files in a folder/directory/project for a word
  or phrase, display the hits and then selectively or optionally do a replace on each
  hit in the displayed list.  In effect, this is an interactive extension of the bulk
  search and replace Tim lists above. 


> - folding (the ability to collapse multiple lines of text down to one
>  line).  Especially if there are various ways to do it (manual
>  folding, language-block folding, folding by indentation)

Yes, yes, yes.  It may simply be a reflection of my poor programming style (grow
  by accretion, wait way too long to refactor), but this is a big help in following
  program logic.

> 
> - multiple clipboard buffers/registers
> 
> - multiple bookmarks
> 
> - the ability to interact with external programs (piping a portion of
>  a file through an external utility)
> 

And in particular, the ability to preview a chunk of html in a browser.

> - a good community around it in case you have questions
> 
> - easy navigation to "important" things in your file (where
>  "important" may vary based on file-type, but may include function
>  definitions, paragraph boundaries, matching
>  paren/bracket/brace/tag, etc)
> 
> Other nice-to-haves include
> 
> - split window editing
> - tabbed windows
> - Unicode support (including various encodings)
> - vimgolf.com ;-)
> 
>> Candidates?
>>    emacs  - standard on most OS's, available for Windows from
> 
> And I'll put in a plug for Vim.
> 
> -tkc
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Important features for editors cutems93 <ms2597@cornell.edu> - 2013-07-04 00:32 -0700
  Re: Important features for editors Νίκος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-04 10:59 +0300
    Re: Important features for editors Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-07-04 04:34 -0400
      Re: Important features for editors Νίκος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-04 12:14 +0300
        Re: Important features for editors Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-04 20:03 +1000
        Re: Important features for editors Robert Kern <robert.kern@gmail.com> - 2013-07-04 12:01 +0100
          Re: Important features for editors Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-07-04 15:48 +0000
        Re: Important features for editors Steve Simmons <square.steve@gmail.com> - 2013-07-04 14:33 +0100
          Re: Important features for editors Νίκος Γκρ33κ <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-04 16:36 +0300
            Re: Important features for editors feedthetroll@gmx.de - 2013-07-04 07:03 -0700
          Re: Important features for editors rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-07-04 07:02 -0700
            Re: Important features for editors Steve Simmons <square.steve@gmail.com> - 2013-07-04 16:35 +0100
            Re: Important features for editors Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-07-04 15:46 +0000
        Re: Important features for editors Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-04 18:40 +0000
          Re: Important features for editors Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-04 21:52 +0300
            Re: Important features for editors Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-05 07:59 +1000
            Re: Important features for editors Jason Swails <jason.swails@gmail.com> - 2013-07-04 17:59 -0400
            Re: Important features for editors Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2013-07-05 03:25 -0400
            Re: Important features for editors Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-05 14:11 +0000
    Re: Important features for editors Νίκος Gr33k <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-05 10:41 +0300
      Re: Important features for editors feedthetroll@gmx.de - 2013-07-05 01:28 -0700
  Re: Important features for editors Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-07-04 05:02 -0400
  Re: Important features for editors Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2013-07-04 08:22 -0500
  Re: Important features for editors MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2013-07-04 15:24 +0100
    Re: Important features for editors rurpy@yahoo.com - 2013-07-04 08:56 -0700
      Re: Important features for editors Steve Simmons <square.steve@gmail.com> - 2013-07-04 17:14 +0100
  Re: Important features for editors William Ray Wing <wrw@mac.com> - 2013-07-04 09:42 -0400
  Re: Important features for editors Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2013-07-04 16:03 -0500
  Re: Important features for editors Joshua Landau <joshua.landau.ws@gmail.com> - 2013-07-05 01:38 +0100
    Re: Important features for editors Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-07-04 21:50 -0400
      Re: Important features for editors Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> - 2013-07-05 12:59 +1000
  Re: Important features for editors Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-07-04 21:15 -0400
  Fwd: Important features for editors Göktuğ Kayaalp <goktug.kayaalp@gmail.com> - 2013-07-04 11:07 +0300
    Re: Important features for editors rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-07-05 05:12 -0700
      Re: Important features for editors Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> - 2013-07-06 09:06 +1000
      Re: Important features for editors Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-07-06 08:43 +0530
        Re: Important features for editors Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-07-05 23:25 -0400
          Re: Important features for editors Joshua Landau <joshua.landau.ws@gmail.com> - 2013-07-06 05:35 +0100
            Re: Important features for editors rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-07-05 22:19 -0700
              Re: Important features for editors Joshua Landau <joshua.landau.ws@gmail.com> - 2013-07-06 07:19 +0100
      Re: Important features for editors Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-07-06 13:39 +0530
      Re: Important features for editors "Eric S. Johansson" <esj@harvee.org> - 2013-07-06 02:52 -0400
  Re: Important features for editors jussij@zeusedit.com - 2013-07-07 23:16 -0700
    Re: Important features for editors Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-07-08 06:37 +0000
      Re: Important features for editors Skip Montanaro <skip@pobox.com> - 2013-07-08 05:21 -0500
      Re: Important features for editors Sivaram Neelakantan <nsivaram.net@gmail.com> - 2013-07-08 19:54 +0530
      Re: Important features for editors Skip Montanaro <skip@pobox.com> - 2013-07-08 13:03 -0500

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