Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder1.enfer-du-nord.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.005 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; ';-)': 0.03; 'chunk': 0.09; 'plug': 0.09; 'subject:features': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'changes': 0.15; 'windows': 0.15; '-tkc': 0.16; 'boundaries,': 0.16; 'collapse': 0.16; 'definitions,': 0.16; 'effect,': 0.16; 'hits': 0.16; 'line).': 0.16; 'navigation': 0.16; 'optionally': 0.16; 'received:mac.com': 0.16; "tim's": 0.16; 'to:addr:python.list': 0.16; 'to:addr:tim.thechases.com': 0.16; 'to:name:tim chase': 0.16; 'files.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; '(where': 0.19; 'received:10.0.1': 0.19; 'split': 0.19; '(the': 0.22; 'command': 0.22; 'programming': 0.22; 'portion': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'replace': 0.24; 'unicode': 0.24; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'extension': 0.26; 'performing': 0.26; 'function': 0.29; 'external': 0.29; 'feature': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'tim': 0.29; 'cc:2**2': 0.30; 'matching': 0.30; 'especially': 0.30; 'url:mailman': 0.30; 'lines': 0.31; 'chase': 0.31; 'yes.': 0.31; 'file': 0.32; 'lists': 0.32; 'text': 0.33; '(including': 0.33; 'url:python': 0.33; 'community': 0.33; 'style': 0.33; 'display': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'add': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'interact': 0.36; 'done': 0.36; 'url:listinfo': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; "i'll": 0.36; 'received:10.0': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'too': 0.37; 'list': 0.37; 'list.': 0.37; 'received:10': 0.37; 'received:17': 0.38; 'window': 0.38; 'files': 0.38; 'ability': 0.39; 'skip:p 20': 0.39; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'easy': 0.60; 'dave': 0.60; 'most': 0.60; 'entire': 0.61; 'simply': 0.61; 'skip:n 10': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'subject:Important': 0.65; 'bulk': 0.74; 'jul': 0.74; 'browser.': 0.78; 'header:In-reply-to:1': 0.84; 'reflection': 0.84; '2013,': 0.91; 'angel': 0.91 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-07-04_04:2013-07-04, 2013-07-04, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1305010000 definitions=main-1307040080 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) Subject: Re: Important features for editors From: William Ray Wing In-reply-to: <20130704082226.57b0897a@bigbox.christie.dr> Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2013 09:42:05 -0400 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable References: <0eab9d68-da63-41b0-bad4-d7b4457128ce@googlegroups.com> <20130704082226.57b0897a@bigbox.christie.dr> To: Tim Chase X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) Cc: python-list@python.org, Dave Angel , William Ray Wing X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 77 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1372948956 news.xs4all.nl 15971 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:39991 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:49869 On Jul 4, 2013, at 9:22 AM, Tim Chase = wrote: > On 2013-07-04 05:02, Dave Angel wrote: > [snip an excellent list of things to look for in an editor] >=20 > Also,=20 >=20 > - the ability to perform changes in bulk, especially across files. > Often, this is done with the ability to record/playback macros, > though some editors have multiple insertion/edit cursors; others > allow for performing a bulk-change command across the entire file > or list of files. >=20 To Tim's and Dave's excellent lists let me add one more feature that I = find useful: the ability to bulk-search through all files in a = folder/directory/project for a word or phrase, display the hits and then selectively or optionally do a = replace on each hit in the displayed list. In effect, this is an interactive = extension of the bulk search and replace Tim lists above.=20 > - folding (the ability to collapse multiple lines of text down to one > line). Especially if there are various ways to do it (manual > folding, language-block folding, folding by indentation) Yes, yes, yes. It may simply be a reflection of my poor programming = style (grow by accretion, wait way too long to refactor), but this is a big help = in following program logic. >=20 > - multiple clipboard buffers/registers >=20 > - multiple bookmarks >=20 > - the ability to interact with external programs (piping a portion of > a file through an external utility) >=20 And in particular, the ability to preview a chunk of html in a browser. > - a good community around it in case you have questions >=20 > - easy navigation to "important" things in your file (where > "important" may vary based on file-type, but may include function > definitions, paragraph boundaries, matching > paren/bracket/brace/tag, etc) >=20 > Other nice-to-haves include >=20 > - split window editing > - tabbed windows > - Unicode support (including various encodings) > - vimgolf.com ;-) >=20 >> Candidates? >> emacs - standard on most OS's, available for Windows from >=20 > And I'll put in a plug for Vim. >=20 > -tkc >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list