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Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc

References (3 earlier) <mailman.4027.1386883640.18130.python-list@python.org> <l8fbam$6q2$1@reader1.panix.com> <mailman.4131.1387070671.18130.python-list@python.org> <l8kh1r$bj8$1@reader1.panix.com> <roy-A0D956.10511915122013@news.panix.com>
Date 2013-12-16 03:04 +1100
Subject Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc
From Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
Message-ID <mailman.4143.1387123508.18130.python-list@python.org> (permalink)

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On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 2:51 AM, Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> wrote:
> In article <l8kh1r$bj8$1@reader1.panix.com>,
>  Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> UDP is a a _datagram_ service. Either all the bytes in a write()
>> should get sent or none of them. Sending a paritial datagram is _not_
>> a valid option.
>
> I would agree with the above if you said send() instead of write().
> Python socket objects don't have write() methods, file objects do.  You
> can wrap a file around a socket with socket.makefile(), but I'm not sure
> I would expect the UDP record boundary semantics to be honored once you
> did that.

The underlying C API allows you, on Unix-like systems at least, to use
the standard write() function to send UDP packets (as long as you
first connect() - otherwise you need sendto() to specify a
destination). I don't usually use that method, but I would expect that
one call to write() becomes one UDP packet.

How that works with socket.makefile() in Python I have no idea.

ChrisA

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[newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Jean Dubois <jeandubois314@gmail.com> - 2013-12-11 15:08 -0800
  Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Dan Stromberg <drsalists@gmail.com> - 2013-12-11 15:20 -0800
    Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Jean Dubois <jeandubois314@gmail.com> - 2013-12-12 00:28 -0800
      Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Dan Stromberg <drsalists@gmail.com> - 2013-12-12 13:23 -0800
        Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Jean Dubois <jeandubois314@gmail.com> - 2013-12-12 19:23 -0800
          Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Dan Stromberg <drsalists@gmail.com> - 2013-12-12 19:32 -0800
            Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Jean Dubois <jeandubois314@gmail.com> - 2013-12-13 03:03 -0800
            Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Jean Dubois <jeandubois314@gmail.com> - 2013-12-13 03:56 -0800
          Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-12-13 08:35 +0000
            Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Jean Dubois <jeandubois314@gmail.com> - 2013-12-13 04:20 -0800
              Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-12-13 09:04 -0800
              Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-12-13 09:09 -0800
                Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Jean Dubois <jeandubois314@gmail.com> - 2013-12-14 05:11 -0800
            Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Jean Dubois <jeandubois314@gmail.com> - 2013-12-14 05:14 -0800
              Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-12-14 13:29 +0000
        Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Jean Dubois <jeandubois314@gmail.com> - 2013-12-16 01:40 -0800
          Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Ervin Hegedüs <airween@gmail.com> - 2013-12-16 11:04 +0100
    Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-12-12 14:16 +0000
      Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-12-13 01:23 +1100
      Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Dan Stromberg <drsalists@gmail.com> - 2013-12-12 13:27 -0800
        Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-12-13 16:06 +0000
          Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Dan Stromberg <drsalists@gmail.com> - 2013-12-14 17:24 -0800
            Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-12-15 15:15 +0000
              Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-12-15 10:51 -0500
                Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-12-16 03:04 +1100
                Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-12-15 12:44 -0500
                Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-12-15 22:42 +0000
                Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-12-16 09:48 +1100
      Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-12-13 08:58 +1100
        Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-12-13 16:10 +0000
          Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-12-14 03:19 +1100
            Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-12-13 16:57 +0000
              Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-12-14 04:05 +1100
        Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@gmail.com> - 2013-12-16 04:38 -0800
          Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-12-16 23:59 +1100
          Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-12-16 09:03 -0500
            Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@gmail.com> - 2013-12-18 23:20 -0800
      Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-12-12 19:52 -0500
  Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Conor Hughes <conorh@conorh.net> - 2013-12-11 15:38 -0800
    Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Jean Dubois <jeandubois314@gmail.com> - 2013-12-12 00:08 -0800
      Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-12-12 19:21 +1100
        Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Jean Dubois <jeandubois314@gmail.com> - 2013-12-12 01:21 -0800
          Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2013-12-12 14:05 +0000
          Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2013-12-12 14:05 +0000
            Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-12-12 14:34 +0000
  Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de> - 2013-12-13 00:43 +0100

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