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Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc

From Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
Subject Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc
Date 2013-12-13 16:57 +0000
Organization PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC
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On 2013-12-13, Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 3:10 AM, Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> Adding boundaries to a TCP stream achieves the same goal (and isn't
>> that hard to do), but since there's no standard for it, people keep
>> having to reinvent it (often badly and always incompaibly).
>
> Nearest to a standard would be the way heaps of internet protocols are
> line-based - SMTP, POP, IMAP, FTP, and to a lesser extent HTTP as
> well. The end-of-line sequence \r\n delimits messages.

And that works very nicely for things that transport text.  It's easy
to implement, easy to debug, easy to test.  But, when you need to
transport binary data, it gets ugly and compatibility problems start
to arise pretty quickly.

One could also borrow standards from the old-school serial world and
us the SYN/STX/ETX framing with byte stuffing used by HDLC et al.

-- 
Grant Edwards               grant.b.edwards        Yow! My vaseline is
                                  at               RUNNING...
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[newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Jean Dubois <jeandubois314@gmail.com> - 2013-12-11 15:08 -0800
  Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Dan Stromberg <drsalists@gmail.com> - 2013-12-11 15:20 -0800
    Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Jean Dubois <jeandubois314@gmail.com> - 2013-12-12 00:28 -0800
      Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Dan Stromberg <drsalists@gmail.com> - 2013-12-12 13:23 -0800
        Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Jean Dubois <jeandubois314@gmail.com> - 2013-12-12 19:23 -0800
          Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Dan Stromberg <drsalists@gmail.com> - 2013-12-12 19:32 -0800
            Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Jean Dubois <jeandubois314@gmail.com> - 2013-12-13 03:03 -0800
            Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Jean Dubois <jeandubois314@gmail.com> - 2013-12-13 03:56 -0800
          Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-12-13 08:35 +0000
            Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Jean Dubois <jeandubois314@gmail.com> - 2013-12-13 04:20 -0800
              Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-12-13 09:04 -0800
              Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-12-13 09:09 -0800
                Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Jean Dubois <jeandubois314@gmail.com> - 2013-12-14 05:11 -0800
            Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Jean Dubois <jeandubois314@gmail.com> - 2013-12-14 05:14 -0800
              Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-12-14 13:29 +0000
        Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Jean Dubois <jeandubois314@gmail.com> - 2013-12-16 01:40 -0800
          Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Ervin Hegedüs <airween@gmail.com> - 2013-12-16 11:04 +0100
    Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-12-12 14:16 +0000
      Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-12-13 01:23 +1100
      Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Dan Stromberg <drsalists@gmail.com> - 2013-12-12 13:27 -0800
        Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-12-13 16:06 +0000
          Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Dan Stromberg <drsalists@gmail.com> - 2013-12-14 17:24 -0800
            Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-12-15 15:15 +0000
              Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-12-15 10:51 -0500
                Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-12-16 03:04 +1100
                Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-12-15 12:44 -0500
                Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-12-15 22:42 +0000
                Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-12-16 09:48 +1100
      Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-12-13 08:58 +1100
        Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-12-13 16:10 +0000
          Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-12-14 03:19 +1100
            Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-12-13 16:57 +0000
              Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-12-14 04:05 +1100
        Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@gmail.com> - 2013-12-16 04:38 -0800
          Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-12-16 23:59 +1100
          Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-12-16 09:03 -0500
            Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@gmail.com> - 2013-12-18 23:20 -0800
      Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-12-12 19:52 -0500
  Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Conor Hughes <conorh@conorh.net> - 2013-12-11 15:38 -0800
    Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Jean Dubois <jeandubois314@gmail.com> - 2013-12-12 00:08 -0800
      Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-12-12 19:21 +1100
        Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Jean Dubois <jeandubois314@gmail.com> - 2013-12-12 01:21 -0800
          Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2013-12-12 14:05 +0000
          Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2013-12-12 14:05 +0000
            Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-12-12 14:34 +0000
  Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de> - 2013-12-13 00:43 +0100

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