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Re: AttributeError in "with" statement (3.2.2)

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Terry Reedy wrote:
> On 12/16/2011 4:22 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 19:39:17 -0500, Terry Reedy wrote:
>> [...]
>>
>> After reading your post, I think I have worked out where our disagreement
>> lies: you think that bound methods and instance methods are not the same
>> thing,
> 
> Do you agree that an unbound method and a bound method are different? In 
> Python, as indicated by the glossary entry, an unspecified 'method' is 
> usually meant to be an unbound method. 

I think you two are in violent agreement as far as how Python is 
functioning, and the conflict is in the names given to the various 
pieces... I think a glossary would help (please correct me):

function:  callable code suite

method:  function that lives in a class

unbound method:  function that lives in a class

bound method:  callable wrapper around function that has been extracted 
from class that will supply the instance object to the function (note: 
Python does not save these, they are recreated at each lookup)


and here is where I think you two diverge:

instance method (Steven):  a bound method that has been saved into the 
instance __dict__ (no matter how created)

instance method (Terry):  a function that must be looked up in the class


Have I missed anything?

Honestly-trying-learn-the-distinctions-ly yours,

~Ethan~

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AttributeError in "with" statement (3.2.2) Steve Howell <showell30@yahoo.com> - 2011-12-13 21:42 -0800
  Re: AttributeError in "with" statement (3.2.2) Eric Snow <ericsnowcurrently@gmail.com> - 2011-12-13 23:05 -0700
  Re: AttributeError in "with" statement (3.2.2) Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2011-12-14 01:29 -0500
    Re: AttributeError in "with" statement (3.2.2) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-12-14 08:01 +0000
      Re: AttributeError in "with" statement (3.2.2) 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2011-12-14 08:08 -0800
        Re: AttributeError in "with" statement (3.2.2) 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2011-12-14 08:28 -0800
      Re: AttributeError in "with" statement (3.2.2) Steve Howell <showell30@yahoo.com> - 2011-12-14 09:16 -0800
      Re: AttributeError in "with" statement (3.2.2) Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2011-12-14 18:13 -0500
        Re: AttributeError in "with" statement (3.2.2) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-12-15 05:01 +0000
          Re: AttributeError in "with" statement (3.2.2) MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2011-12-15 05:15 +0000
            Re: AttributeError in "with" statement (3.2.2) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-12-15 07:21 +0000
            Re: AttributeError in "with" statement (3.2.2) Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2011-12-16 09:34 +1300
          Re: AttributeError in "with" statement (3.2.2) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-12-15 07:47 +0000
          Re: AttributeError in "with" statement (3.2.2) Steve Howell <showell30@yahoo.com> - 2011-12-15 05:35 -0800
            Re: AttributeError in "with" statement (3.2.2) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-12-16 03:34 +0000
          Re: AttributeError in "with" statement (3.2.2) Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2011-12-15 19:39 -0500
            Re: AttributeError in "with" statement (3.2.2) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-12-16 09:22 +0000
              Re: AttributeError in "with" statement (3.2.2) Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2011-12-16 17:05 -0500
                Re: AttributeError in "with" statement (3.2.2) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-12-17 01:26 +0000
                Re: AttributeError in "with" statement (3.2.2) Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2011-12-17 21:09 -0500
              Re: AttributeError in "with" statement (3.2.2) Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2011-12-16 15:26 -0800
                Re: AttributeError in "with" statement (3.2.2) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-12-17 03:05 +0000
              Re: AttributeError in "with" statement (3.2.2) Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2011-12-16 16:34 -0800
  Re: AttributeError in "with" statement (3.2.2) Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> - 2011-12-14 11:02 +0100
  Re: AttributeError in "with" statement (3.2.2) Eric Snow <ericsnowcurrently@gmail.com> - 2011-12-14 09:56 -0700
  Re: AttributeError in "with" statement (3.2.2) Lie Ryan <lie.1296@gmail.com> - 2011-12-15 06:14 +1100
  Re: AttributeError in "with" statement (3.2.2) Eric Snow <ericsnowcurrently@gmail.com> - 2011-12-14 12:46 -0700

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