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| From | Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> |
| Subject | Re: Why is there no natural syntax for accessing attributes with names not being valid identifiers? |
| Date | Fri, 6 Dec 2013 14:07:51 +0000 (UTC) |
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On 2013-12-04, Piotr Dobrogost <p@google-groups-2013.dobrogost.net> wrote: > On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 10:41:49 PM UTC+1, Neil Cerutti > wrote: >> not something to do commonly. Your proposed syntax leaves the >> distinction between valid and invalid identifiers a problem >> the programmer has to deal with. It doesn't unify access to >> attributes the way the getattr and setattr do. > > Taking into account that obj.'x' would be equivalent to obj.x > any attribute can be accessed with the new syntax. I don't see > how this is not unified access compared to using getattr > instead dot... I thought of that argument later the next day. Your proposal does unify access if the old obj.x syntax is removed. -- Neil Cerutti
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Why is there no natural syntax for accessing attributes with names not being valid identifiers? Piotr Dobrogost <p@google-groups-2013.dobrogost.net> - 2013-12-03 09:14 -0800
Re: Why is there no natural syntax for accessing attributes with names not being valid identifiers? Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2013-12-03 12:38 -0500
Re: Why is there no natural syntax for accessing attributes with names
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Re: Why is there no natural syntax for accessing attributes with names not being valid identifiers? Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2013-12-03 09:31 -0800
Re: Why is there no natural syntax for accessing attributes with names not being valid identifiers? Piotr Dobrogost <p@google-groups-2013.dobrogost.net> - 2013-12-03 15:49 -0800
Re: Why is there no natural syntax for accessing attributes with names not being valid identifiers? random832@fastmail.us - 2013-12-03 13:03 -0500
Re: Why is there no natural syntax for accessing attributes with names not being valid identifiers? Piotr Dobrogost <p@google-groups-2013.dobrogost.net> - 2013-12-03 15:47 -0800
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Re: Why is there no natural syntax for accessing attributes with names not being valid identifiers? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-12-04 20:46 +0000
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Re: Why is there no natural syntax for accessing attributes with names not being valid identifiers? Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2013-12-06 14:07 +0000
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