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| From | Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards@gmail.com> |
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.python |
| Subject | Re: Is threading better on Usenet or gmane? |
| Date | Mon, 11 Apr 2016 17:16:36 +0000 (UTC) |
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On 2016-04-11, Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 2016-04-11, Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
> I just finished checking a very recent thread containing 67 articles
> by pointing slrn at news.panix.com for the Usenet version and at
> news.gmane.com for the mailing-list version.
[...]
> On the Usenet side, 35 of 67 articles had unavailable parent
> articles,
[...]
> On the mailing-list side 15 of 67 had unavailable parent articles,
FWIW, an automated test on the 1000 most recent articles showed this:
Usenet Gmane
No References 69 104
Unavailable Parent 357 34
Due to moderation/filtering, the set of articles from the two servers
probably isn't identical.
For posts that aren't follow-ups, no references is normal, but I'm
surprised by the size of the difference in number of articles with no
references header.
An unavailable parent means that there _was_ a refrences header, but
the most recent reference didn't map to an available article on the
server in question.
In general, the situation appears to be significantly better on Gmane
-- even if we assume that the excess number of "no reference"
ariticles on Gmane indicates those articles are broken and should have
references.
--
Grant Edwards grant.b.edwards Yow! Let me do my TRIBUTE
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Is threading better on Usenet or gmane? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-04-11 14:24 +0000
Re: Is threading better on Usenet or gmane? Random832 <random832@fastmail.com> - 2016-04-11 10:41 -0400
Re: Is threading better on Usenet or gmane? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-04-11 14:55 +0000
Re: Is threading better on Usenet or gmane? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-04-11 15:58 +0000
Re: Is threading better on Usenet or gmane? Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 17:16 +0000
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