Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Grant Edwards Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Is threading better on Usenet or gmane? Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 17:16:36 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 39 Message-ID: References: <1460385693.3220159.575241033.0E32F975@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de Xjd1XkfXaFebPZMTR7zL/wkNkwQwhQ3ygAS3jUw2eVQw== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'broken': 0.03; 'indicates': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'received:qwest.net': 0.09; 'unavailable': 0.09; 'thread': 0.10; 'assume': 0.11; 'question.': 0.13; 'gmane': 0.16; 'mailing-list': 0.16; 'normal,': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'usenet': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'version.': 0.18; "aren't": 0.22; 'appears': 0.23; 'finished': 0.23; 'references': 0.23; 'this:': 0.23; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.26; 'checking': 0.27; '"no': 0.29; 'header,': 0.29; 'references.': 0.29; "i'm": 0.30; 'posts': 0.30; 'probably': 0.31; 'surprised': 0.33; 'server': 0.34; "isn't": 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'there': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; 'difference': 0.38; 'version': 0.38; 'means': 0.39; 'test': 0.39; "didn't": 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'side': 0.62; 'skip:n 10': 0.62; 'due': 0.65; 'articles': 0.67; 'situation': 0.67; 'article': 0.77; 'tribute': 0.84; 'articles,': 0.91; 'edwards': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 67-130-15-94.dia.static.qwest.net User-Agent: slrn/1.0.2 (Linux) X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: X-Mailman-Original-References: <1460385693.3220159.575241033.0E32F975@webmail.messagingengine.com> Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:106887 On 2016-04-11, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2016-04-11, Grant Edwards wrote: > > I just finished checking a very recent thread containing 67 articles > by pointing slrn at news.panix.com for the Usenet version and at > news.gmane.com for the mailing-list version. [...] > On the Usenet side, 35 of 67 articles had unavailable parent > articles, [...] > On the mailing-list side 15 of 67 had unavailable parent articles, FWIW, an automated test on the 1000 most recent articles showed this: Usenet Gmane No References 69 104 Unavailable Parent 357 34 Due to moderation/filtering, the set of articles from the two servers probably isn't identical. For posts that aren't follow-ups, no references is normal, but I'm surprised by the size of the difference in number of articles with no references header. An unavailable parent means that there _was_ a refrences header, but the most recent reference didn't map to an available article on the server in question. In general, the situation appears to be significantly better on Gmane -- even if we assume that the excess number of "no reference" ariticles on Gmane indicates those articles are broken and should have references. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwards Yow! Let me do my TRIBUTE at to FISHNET STOCKINGS ... gmail.com